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by Zsenitan 05/10/2009, 8:40am PDT |
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icybulbsaur wrote:
worm doing his best work in other forums as usual wrote:
icybulbasaursaur wrote:
Quote:
icycalm in another thread wrote:
...it is only by adopting the (clearly false) dualistic viewpoint that we were able to make sense of the world in the first place...
I think the purpose (and usefulness) of the thread has been lost in favor of the holistic viewpoint.
No it hasn't. The purpose was to arrive at a workable definition of 'game', a definition which Encarta gave us ages ago and which I've already used on this site several times. So I mean, the thread's purpose had been achieved even before the thread was started. Hopefully, some people have learned some things by reading my clarifications. Now if Bradford thinks he can come up with a better, more useful definition than the one I have been using, he is more than welcome to try, and try again and again. So far, however, I have only seen failed attempts.
(P.S. Also, when you quote me or anyone else from this forum, please include a link to the specific post/thread where the quote is from, for the benefit of others.)
One might ask: and what is this incendiarily correct defintion of gaming.
icybulbasaur wrote:
This is why Wittgenstein was not able to define the concept 'game' -- because it is not a concept that can be circumscribed in any way, and certainly not in terms of "goals", "purposes", "winning" or "losing" or any other such contraptions. People speak of goals and purposes AS IF EVERY SINGLE ACTION IN THE UNIVERSE DID NOT ALWAYS AND NECESSARILY HAVE THEM. Not to mention winning and losing, which can be found everywhere you care to look -- from the motions of elementary particles all the way up to those of galaxies.
Questions of the ontological nature of physics: it is ethical, lawful good. (Wittgenstein, Nintendo Power) |
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State Of Insomni.ac 4-29 by Zsenitan 04/29/2009, 11:34am PDT
First rushes! by Zsenitan 04/29/2009, 11:45am PDT
All you have to do is toss him a 20 year old quote (WITTGENSTEIN) and he runs NT by Fortinbras 04/29/2009, 11:57am PDT
State Of Insomni.ac 5-10 by Zsenitan 05/10/2009, 8:40am PDT
Different Worm NT by Worm 05/10/2009, 9:07am PDT
Philosophy: the hunt for definition consensus? by Fussbett 05/11/2009, 5:24pm PDT
it's insomnia dot ac by Bananadine 05/11/2009, 7:28pm PDT
State Of InsomniA.ac 5-18 by Zsenitan 05/18/2009, 7:39am PDT
I've just about finished the Schopenhauer essays he posted by Bananadine 05/18/2009, 10:30am PDT
Re: I've just about finished the Schopenhauer essays he posted by Zsenitan 05/18/2009, 11:23am PDT
Re: I've just about finished the Schopenhauer essays he posted by Bananadine 05/18/2009, 11:53am PDT
Re: I've just about finished the Schopenhauer essays he posted by Zsenitan 05/18/2009, 12:13pm PDT
Re: I've just about finished the Schopenhauer essays he posted by Bananadine 05/18/2009, 1:42pm PDT
Hahaha by Zsenitan 05/18/2009, 1:55pm PDT
Re: Hahaha by Bananadine 05/18/2009, 3:03pm PDT
Your brother has Is-ism by Ray of Light 05/18/2009, 7:05pm PDT
Go to 4chan and ask them to scroll up some porn curating recommendations by Entropy Stew 05/19/2009, 8:00pm PDT
(Schopenhauer) NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 05/18/2009, 12:19pm PDT
Re: State Of Insomni.ac 4-29 by Dear Lord.. 05/25/2009, 5:43am PDT
Icycalm fans strike, misuse words harder than ever NT by Zsenitan 05/25/2009, 12:20pm PDT
Only in fucking FRANCE is this shit allowed to happen NT by Fortinbras 05/25/2009, 1:40pm PDT
Re: Icycalm fans strike, misuse words harder than ever by Dear Lord.. 05/26/2009, 3:32am PDT
The act of deconstruction is completely at odds with the act of judging a point by Zsenitan 05/26/2009, 5:50am PDT
Re: The act of deconstruction is completely at odds with the act of judging a po by Dear Lord.. 05/26/2009, 6:31am PDT
You are proving her point. Was that on purpose? (no of course not, rhetorical q NT by Last 05/26/2009, 6:50am PDT
Re: You are proving her point. Was that on purpose? (no of course not, rhetoric by Dear Lord.. 05/26/2009, 11:08am PDT
Fag NT by The Ghost Of Friedrich Neitzsche 05/26/2009, 11:21am PDT
Basically he wanted to say "understand any points" but it wasn't cool sounding? NT by Lordy we get it 05/26/2009, 11:39am PDT
Re: The act of deconstruction is completely at odds with the act of judging a po by Zsenitan 05/26/2009, 11:13am PDT
In short, the opposite of Constructicons are Destructicons, not Deconstructicons NT by Worm 05/26/2009, 11:34am PDT
Like she said, scholarly people here! NT by Fortinbras 05/26/2009, 11:36am PDT
Zseni is 20th Anniversary Optimus Prime, you are all first-gen Go-bots NT by The Breadman 05/26/2009, 11:39am PDT
Because her ass is like a tractor-trailer? NT by Fortinbras 05/26/2009, 11:42am PDT
*gettin drizzunk, lightin fizzarts* NT by The Ghost Of Friedrich Neitzsche 05/26/2009, 11:43am PDT
Re: The act of deconstruction is completely at odds with the act of judging a po by lol u no 05/28/2009, 3:33am PDT
Re: The act of deconstruction is completely at odds with the act of judging a po by Zsenitan 05/28/2009, 3:57am PDT
Re: The act of deconstruction is completely at odds with the act of judging a po by o 05/28/2009, 4:53am PDT
Oi, asshole, how about you just use disassemble? by THE MOTHERFUCKING OED 05/28/2009, 7:44am PDT
this is goonspeak on a penultimate level by Weyoun Voidbringer 05/28/2009, 7:47am PDT
Irregardless, NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 05/28/2009, 7:53am PDT
Re: The act of deconstruction is completely at odds with the act of judging a po by Zsenitan 05/28/2009, 8:44am PDT
MEANWHILE, back at the ranch: by Zsenitan 05/28/2009, 9:12am PDT
Re: MEANWHILE, back at the ranch: by Sigmund Freud 05/29/2009, 10:46am PDT
RUUUUU~~~~ *sad horns* NT by Zsenitan 05/29/2009, 1:20pm PDT
how come smart people have to be so mean NT by bink 05/28/2009, 10:28am PDT
I know the argument has already moved past this, but... by Fussbett 05/28/2009, 10:08am PDT
This is all good but... by Quétinbec 05/28/2009, 3:22pm PDT
BEHIND THE SCENES by Fussbett 05/28/2009, 3:33pm PDT
Re: BEHIND THE SCENES by Ice Cream Jonsey 05/28/2009, 3:35pm PDT
Oops yeah, I wrote it backwards. I didn't care who it was about, I just wanted NT by to expand the Gobot joke. 05/28/2009, 3:45pm PDT
Re: BEHIND THE SCENES by Zsenitan 05/28/2009, 3:46pm PDT
We most DECONSTRUCT THIS JOKE NT by Fortincalm 05/28/2009, 9:20pm PDT
Gentleman ICJ goes undercover to pay compliments! Fuck being nice to your face! NT by Quétinbec 05/28/2009, 11:07pm PDT
Re: I know the argument has already moved past this, but... by The Happiness Engine 05/28/2009, 3:35pm PDT
I hear you. by Fussbett 05/28/2009, 3:47pm PDT
OH GOD STOP IT by Zsenitan 05/28/2009, 3:57pm PDT
Thank god for Caltrops by Joey 05/28/2009, 4:18pm PDT
Thankgod, the Godthanker <--- better than your actual name/life NT by Zsenitan 05/28/2009, 5:52pm PDT
Every time you post, Caltrops does its job. NT by Joey 05/28/2009, 6:38pm PDT
Who's Joey? NT by Fortinbras 05/28/2009, 6:53pm PDT
I'm making this website better. By turning it into a prison. For you. NT by Joey 05/28/2009, 6:56pm PDT
Sounds pretty gay. NEXT! NT by Fortinbras 05/28/2009, 8:04pm PDT
We've already imprisoned ourselves and mete out punishment daily (Sartre) by Entropy Stew 05/28/2009, 10:21pm PDT
We imprisoned ourselves in this impossible forum code. by Creexuls, a monster >:3 05/29/2009, 7:03am PDT
I can taste the stink and every time I do, I fear that I've somehow been infecte NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 05/29/2009, 7:16am PDT
Also a spirit with a vision is a dream with a mission. (Rush) NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 05/29/2009, 7:05am PDT
Sorry to draw it out by bink 05/29/2009, 5:51am PDT
Re: Sorry to draw it out by Zsenitan 05/29/2009, 6:27am PDT
Chess game by bink 05/29/2009, 7:54am PDT
I still suck. by Zsenitan 09/23/2009, 12:26pm PDT
HOW TO WIN INTERNET ARGUMENTS: CITE A DICTIONARY by Fortinbras 05/26/2009, 11:26am PDT
More people would respond to this post if icycalm wasn't such a joke NT by Souffle of Pain 05/25/2009, 10:36pm PDT
State Of InsomniA.ac 5-27 by Zsenitan 05/27/2009, 6:05pm PDT
Man, that Baudrillard guy has a quote for everything! NT by Fortinbras 05/27/2009, 7:19pm PDT
Re: State Of InsomniA.ac 5-27 by Bunyip 05/27/2009, 7:53pm PDT
Hahahahahhahaha by Fortinbras 05/27/2009, 8:37pm PDT
oh god wake me when he starts claiming he's the messiah NT by up with pod people 05/27/2009, 8:05pm PDT
Re: oh god wake me when he starts claiming he's the messiah by Bananadine 05/27/2009, 8:12pm PDT
You forgot he'll sign up your registration e-mail for scat porn NT by Fortinbras 05/27/2009, 8:38pm PDT
If philosophy is defining words, comedy is replacing bits of them with obsceniti by Jerry Whorebach 05/27/2009, 8:55pm PDT
Wake up, he's claiming he's the messiah. by Zsenitan 05/27/2009, 8:36pm PDT
In which I court banning by Mischief Maker 06/10/2009, 5:56am PDT
Oh, MM, you're still my favorite girl. NT by Zsenitan 06/10/2009, 6:45am PDT
Re: In which I court banning by Bananadine 06/10/2009, 7:57am PDT
My post is exiled! by Mischief Maker 06/10/2009, 12:39pm PDT
Whoops! by Mischief Maker 06/10/2009, 12:40pm PDT
Re: Whoops! by Creexuls, a monster >:3 06/10/2009, 12:43pm PDT
Re: My post is exiled! by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/10/2009, 1:08pm PDT
Oh, you are over there courting a banning. Ignore that part of my post, plz NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/10/2009, 1:09pm PDT
icycalm's deconstructions of video games are not opinions. by Fullofkittens 06/10/2009, 1:21pm PDT
He's just a douche with no balls, if you're a little mean he deletes your post. by Worm 06/10/2009, 3:24pm PDT
Re: My post is exiled! by Mischief Maker 06/10/2009, 9:10pm PDT
Re: My post is exiled! by Bananadine 06/11/2009, 7:33am PDT
What does Dana Stevens think of Creexul? NT by Mischief Maker 06/11/2009, 8:13am PDT
I don't know that is a question for Dana Stevens :( by Bananadine 06/11/2009, 8:48am PDT
Creexul, be nice. Please. by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/11/2009, 9:49am PDT
Thanks Jonsey! by Dana Stevens 06/11/2009, 10:12am PDT
That's not her! NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/11/2009, 10:13am PDT
Re: That's not her! by mark 06/11/2009, 10:19am PDT
Re: That's not her! by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/11/2009, 10:42am PDT
ICJ and the world's worst movie critic, sitting in a tree. =( NT by Fullofkittens 06/11/2009, 11:19am PDT
F-U-C-K-I-hahaha, oh who am I kidding?! NT by Anonymous Coward 06/11/2009, 12:48pm PDT
I would have gone with B-A-N-N-I-N-G, personally, hrmmph. NT by icycalm 06/11/2009, 12:51pm PDT
He lives in Japan? Hahahahaha NT by Quentin Beck 06/11/2009, 9:43am PDT
France NT by Fortinbras 06/11/2009, 10:22am PDT
Tim Rogers lives in Japan. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 06/11/2009, 11:39am PDT
google "icycalm japan" he was there and maybe is there and apparently speaks Jap NT by Fortinbras correction service 06/11/2009, 1:02pm PDT
His forum info says Lyons, France. Pardon my ignorance, faggot. NT by Fortinbras 06/11/2009, 1:29pm PDT
Of course now it says Ferenze, Italia so maybe he just likes pretending to be a NT by pretentious asshole 06/11/2009, 1:32pm PDT
you're not supposed to correct yourself what is this are you trying to put me ou by Fortinbras correction service 06/11/2009, 2:28pm PDT
Re: My post is exiled! by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/11/2009, 7:45am PDT
"Excelsior" PERFECT NT by Zsenitan 06/11/2009, 8:10am PDT
I would have gone with the shorter Veritas but I wanted mobile mode to hurt more NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/11/2009, 9:58am PDT
Wouldn't they be more like Neo or whatever and you would be Agent Smith? O_O NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 06/11/2009, 11:54am PDT
icycalm crunching away on a mouthful of blue pills NT by Mischief Maker 06/11/2009, 2:50pm PDT
BUCKLE UP DOROTHY BECAUSE KANSAS IS GOING BYE BYE o_o by Creexuls, a monster >:3 06/11/2009, 3:59pm PDT
Re: My post is exiled! by Mischief Maker 06/11/2009, 5:45am PDT
Posting Guidelines: LAST WARNING! by Mischief Maker 11/13/2009, 1:58pm PST
gasp: caltrops might outlive insomniaaaaaaac! NT by up with pod people 11/13/2009, 2:00pm PST
6B - 5.9999999B = 100 more, not millions more. B&! B&! B&! B&! B&! B&! by Last 11/13/2009, 2:21pm PST
Fuckin' is an inappropriate truncation of a perfectly fine word. F- (see me) NT by Fortinbras 11/13/2009, 2:44pm PST
Registered, wrote a post, clicked the button: ALREADY BANNED NT by Mysterious Stranger 11/13/2009, 3:13pm PST
BANNED! NT by Mischief Maker 11/13/2009, 4:11pm PST
I can't believe he banned you by Ice Cream Jonsey 11/13/2009, 4:52pm PST
That entire thread is amazing! by Mr. Copy 11/13/2009, 4:59pm PST
I like the cut of this fellow's jib NT by Kim Jong Il 11/13/2009, 5:44pm PST
I would bet against it. He's thin with male pattern baldness NT by Pay up. 11/13/2009, 5:46pm PST
Re: I would bet against it. He's thin with male pattern baldness by some guy 04/21/2010, 6:12pm PDT
This guy is LITERALLY Ignatius J. Reilly NT by Hans Clastorp 11/13/2009, 6:26pm PST
"complexity", eh? Well he's got some complexes of his own, that's for sure. NT by Eurotrash 11/13/2009, 11:45pm PST
Entering THE MATRIX won't help you now. O_O NT by Jhoh Creexul (custom software) 11/14/2009, 2:35am PST
Message for icycalm (cross-post) by New York Times Editor 11/14/2009, 8:51am PST
Did icycalm get a new job? by E. L. Koba 12/02/2009, 6:30pm PST
Is this site still a thing? NT by AC 05/21/2017, 4:05pm PDT
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