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Re: Nothing intelligent can ever be discussed at Caltrops. by Bill Dungsroman 08/02/2004, 12:40am PDT
Zseni wrote:

Not as long as I'm here, bringing down the general level of discourse. What I want is a Wikipedia full of Caltrops posters,
Go make one. Wikipedia is fucking queer. We don't have enough content or posts to even warrant it. We're too incompetent to run for more than a couple of years without dying and losing all of our content anyway, and you want to overhaul the site for easy cross-referencing? Anyway, you totally missed the part where The Veronica Project was a black-bag covert op to subvert the growing demand for a Search feature. Who needs one now?

Zseni wrote:

with everyone having the same ability to edit each others' posts
Wow, that's the worst idea I've heard ever.

Zseni wrote:

and manifesting articles and forums alike in a conglomerate which individual users differentiate for themselves (this person answers "articles" with "articles," this other one uses "talk"; another posts "articles" and "talk" alike to "article" pages, etc. Articles branch off each other; people post reams of chat logs as addenda to articles or to comments of articles, etc. etc. etc.)
That sounds elaborate. We're caltrops; we don't do elaborate.

Zseni wrote:

(But divide the articles into pages.)
Zseni likes the pages, got it.

Zseni wrote:

If there were a Caltropsian wikipedia, my belief that Caltrops is an RPG would be fully implemented (forced on others) by turning content creation and forum chatter alike into a massive round of Nomic a la miasma, with video games and fag jokes as strange attractors. Instantly. Since all the rules would have to be made live and modified by those who follow them. The new forum overlord is not a person, it's the developing ruleset (weak, socially-enforced limiter) and the limitations of the technology at hand (strong arbitrary limiter.)
Yeah. That sounds pretty goddamned boring.

Zseni wrote:

Well I'm just interested in seeing how the community develops itself. How quickly is it decided that there must be some unchangeable documents,
There won't be any, as long as you're here. And me. And Fussbett. And INC. And Creexul. And FABIO. And...

Zseni wrote:

how soon will someone appoint himself to the office of sherrif,
"Himself." Enough with the coy pretense.

Zseni wrote:

whether a decision is made to route around a crazy sherrif
Wonder who that is?

Zseni wrote:

or to fall in under him, how interested people can stay in the political day-to-day, what gets fought over.
What caltrops needs: impetus to argue. I never knew.

Zseni wrote:

Wikipedia supports itself (internally, as a group project or community) by having a purpose; cutting it loose from that purpose and the laws built up to protect that purpose would be an awesome spectacle of human behavior.
Yeah, too bad it'll never happen, whether the site was overhauled or not.

Zseni wrote:

I got my panties in a wedge over the Purple Junta and the Crazy Admin; I have my panties in a wedge now that, because of the design and publishing structure, ICJ has to make time to make edits for people perfectly capable of editing their own articles. I won't be fully happy until there are no differences between forum and content besides self-assigned ones, and no differences between admin and user at all.
Warning us that you won't be happy unless Demand X is satisfied is quite simply the best way of guaranteeing X will never happen (in this case, it wouldn't, anyway).

Zseni wrote:

Sticking points: someone has to be the site contact. The massiveness of the proposed system smothers itself without an actual purpose to inflate it.
Namely, anyone giving a shit. No, seriously. In truth, it is a pretty fanciful idea that would be dynamic and interesting if a)ICJ, ES, and CP had the time and energy to devote to it (which they don't, and to ask nay demand it of them is ridiculous) and b)the local gentry cared enough to buoy it. Realistically, we have neither. It's like Cabaret Voltron. You/I/We wanted prosaic deathmatches, we got mrs. johnson fic. But CV's set-up was a trifle, this is absurd.

Zseni wrote:

People are generally content with the current system with ICJ as Real Admin and BDR in some nebulously threatening Forum Cop (stuffing donuts down his beleaguered craw, reading posts obsessively to justify his titular badge) role. Nothing intelligent can ever be discussed at Caltrops.
Yeah, yeah. Someday I'll slip up and make a threat maybe (which I suppose you're hoping for from the current BDR ator making its way around, whether it's you or not), and then you can reverse engineer this accusation. Although, I can still make out the faint S and B under the overwritten BDR, just so you know.

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Nothing intelligent can ever be discussed at Caltrops. by Zseni 08/01/2004, 10:40pm PDT NEW
    Why don't you just start up your own cyber-libertopia? by Creexul :( 08/01/2004, 10:49pm PDT NEW
        That would require effort on her part. NT by Zseni 08/01/2004, 10:55pm PDT NEW
            Maybe she likes us? NT by Creexul :( 08/01/2004, 11:01pm PDT NEW
                Maybe we don't like her NT by Veronica 08/01/2004, 11:12pm PDT NEW
                    Good call, boss. NT by Monty Cantsin 08/01/2004, 11:18pm PDT NEW
    Blog me a river by Entropy Stew 08/02/2004, 12:03am PDT NEW
        Re: Blog me a river by whydirt 08/02/2004, 12:06am PDT NEW
            Re: Blog me a river by Entropy Stew 08/02/2004, 12:09am PDT NEW
        Re: Blog me a river by Zseni 08/02/2004, 12:25am PDT NEW
    Re: Nothing intelligent can ever be discussed at Caltrops. by Bill Dungsroman 08/02/2004, 12:40am PDT NEW
        Re: Nothing intelligent can ever be discussed at Caltrops. by Zseni 08/02/2004, 2:39am PDT NEW
            Then sign up to get bukkaked and shut the fuck up NT by Entropy Stew 08/02/2004, 8:53am PDT NEW
                Yeah, people who post to message boards are awful. by Zseni 08/02/2004, 10:45am PDT NEW
                    Cunt makes awful retort? NT by samus 08/02/2004, 10:46am PDT NEW
                    Re: Yeah, people who post to message boards are awful. by Entropy Stew 08/03/2004, 11:06pm PDT NEW
        Re: Nothing intelligent can ever be discussed at Caltrops. by Ice Cream Jonsey 01/07/2017, 2:05pm PST NEW
    CMS by jeep 08/02/2004, 10:36pm PDT NEW
        first rule: jeep must close all tags NT by jeep 08/02/2004, 10:37pm PDT NEW
        Re: CMS by Zseni 08/03/2004, 6:09pm PDT NEW
            Re: CMS by jeep 08/04/2004, 6:21pm PDT NEW
                Re: CMS by Zseni 08/05/2004, 4:30pm PDT NEW
                    zseni I need your email for testing by jeep 08/07/2004, 10:49pm PDT NEW
                        I'm gonna mess with this, and invite my brother along too... NT by Chairman Mao 08/08/2004, 2:04am PDT NEW
                    OK basic setup by jeep 08/07/2004, 11:35pm PDT NEW
                        "The XML page cannot be displayed" NT by IE user 08/08/2004, 8:06pm PDT NEW
                            Invisible comments NT by Firefox user 08/08/2004, 8:59pm PDT NEW
                                My Bad by jeep 08/08/2004, 11:27pm PDT NEW
    True, for very small values of "Caltrops" by Ray of Light 08/03/2004, 12:26am PDT NEW
    I want witty and insightful sigs complete with gfx at the end of every post! NT by Mischief Maker 08/03/2004, 8:10am PDT NEW
        Girls aren't allowed that. NT by Zseni 08/03/2004, 9:09am PDT NEW
        you mean like this? by FABIO 08/03/2004, 6:08pm PDT NEW
            Fuck you! My sig is hilarious! by Mischief Maker 08/03/2004, 10:37pm PDT NEW
                Could you be veronica for a minute and send me a backup of the forum? by Entropy Stew 08/03/2004, 11:10pm PDT NEW
                    That's it! ICJ, delete the forum or I'm throwing you out! by Mischief Maker 08/04/2004, 8:43am PDT NEW
                Aren't you forgetting that I'M one of those personalities? NT by FABIO 08/03/2004, 11:20pm PDT NEW
                Who is publishing your strategy guide on forum posting? NT by Lurker Shoomoser 08/08/2004, 10:50am PDT NEW
    Re: Nothing intelligent can ever be discussed at Caltrops. by laudablepuss 08/03/2004, 11:27am PDT NEW
    WIKI WAH WIKI WIKI WIKI WAH WAH NT by Will Smith 08/04/2004, 8:52am PDT NEW
 
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