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Sanitario666: Turing test: Who am I?
Ray of Light: The guy who's 18 months away from owing me five bills
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Sanitario666: Now what makes you think AI will be done in 18 months? That's just based on the chart? Or has there been an advancement?
Ray of Light: Did I ever make the post or comment where I said I'd let you out for $100 less for each year earlier than 2015 that you decided to buy out?
Ray of Light: because in that post I had it all reasoned out
Sanitario666: I don't recall that, no
Sanitario666: Frankly that sounds like someone unsure of the outcome!
Ray of Light: I probably meant to say it once I got aim back. I was very confident.
Ray of Light: there was some kind of story that got me thinking about it, but it wasn't a big advancement
Ray of Light: just more poeple being fooled
Ray of Light: "I used to be very confident" is not much a slam dunk, I know, so I'll understand if you're not intimidated
Sanitario666: Yeah, the Turing Test "concept" doesn't factor in people being dumb asses
Sanitario666: The Long Bets Kapour/Kurzweil criteria is my saving grave <--(Holy cow, was that a huge Freudian Omen?!)
Sanitario666: grace
Sanitario666: Someone should chart the rise of computer intelligence overlaid on the falling intelligence of the common turing test human.
Sanitario666: And find the intersection
Ray of Light: do they specify the use of expert judges in the bet?
Ray of Light: I haven't read those criteria
Sanitario666: not experts, but I think they both get to pick, plus both participate
Sanitario666: plus it was more rigorous than that Loebner contest where the humans PLAYING computers act like buffoons
Sanitario666: but I forget the specifics on why I say that now, the rules were long.
Sanitario666: They start out by defining what a "human" is.
Ray of Light: haha
Sanitario666: the other part that's good about this being a dual FSBT/Ray and Long Bet is that for you to win there will have to be an artificial intelligence that really generates a lot of interest, and Kurzweil will declare "I WISH TO EXECUTE THE CHALLENGE!" or whatever thing he has to say.
Sanitario666: And we'll be all "whoaaaa!"
Sanitario666: And then it'll happen! Like a superbowl, but much more important
Sanitario666: And I guess I'll be following someone's Tweets at the event. <--(Expect this reference to look really dated in 2015.)
Ray of Light: does he only get one shot?
Sanitario666: I wouldn't expect so
Sanitario666: But now that I think about it, you're extra fucked, because Kurzweil has until 2029, so he might not get off his ass on this until 2020, just because.
Ray of Light: no, there are people out there making fun of him
Ray of Light: look at his defense of his earlier predictions. He cares what they think and will want to put this one in the bag
Sanitario666: this is true
Ray of Light: plus, one million dollars
Ray of Light: moreover, Ray K believes in the singularity
Ray of Light: which means he thinks that million won't be of any use to him after a near date
Sanitario666: If I wanted insurance on my bet, I should start flooding the net with pro-Kurzweil propaganda
Sanitario666: False sense of security |
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The Long Bets (Mitchell Kapor vs Raymond Kurzweil / Fussbett vs Ray of Light) by Fussbett 08/28/2008, 1:11pm PDT 
Didn't ELIZA pass this test decades ago? NT by Mischief Maker 08/28/2008, 1:24pm PDT
This bet says the computer can fool skeptics for 2 hours. Eliza wasn't that goo NT by Last 08/28/2008, 1:37pm PDT
Yeah, no one cares that ELIZA fooled some idiot back in 1967 when people... by Fussbett 08/28/2008, 2:38pm PDT
Re: Yeah, no one cares that ELIZA fooled some idiot back in 1967 when people... by Entropy Stew 08/28/2008, 2:51pm PDT
What are the commercial possibilities of a human-seeming instant messager bot? NT by Fussbett 08/28/2008, 5:53pm PDT
A/S/L? NT by Robohooker 08/28/2008, 6:11pm PDT
Script-driven customer support. NT by Last 08/28/2008, 6:25pm PDT
Unlimited by Entropy Stew 08/28/2008, 9:11pm PDT
I don't think conversation is the appeal of Real Doll TM NT by Mischief Maker 08/28/2008, 9:25pm PDT
You can bring it with you to office functions NT by Entropy Stew 08/28/2008, 9:30pm PDT
download some programs off the internet and install them (O GOD WORM YOU SICK FU NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 08/28/2008, 9:35pm PDT
Procedurally generated screaming. :) NT by Worm 08/28/2008, 9:40pm PDT
fractal scat NT by Entropy Stew 08/28/2008, 10:10pm PDT
gape is something only a real AI could simulate NT by Worm 08/28/2008, 10:20pm PDT
That's NP-hard by Entropy Stew 08/28/2008, 11:32pm PDT
he can't get NP hard unless he can enact a snuff film with them NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 08/29/2008, 1:01am PDT
A traveling salesman has four suit cases with three women in them at points a, b NT by ,c, and d Worm 08/29/2008, 4:36pm PDT
I think the first Turing Test success will be a faker, not an idea parser. NT by Fussbett 08/28/2008, 10:41pm PDT
That was why I brought it up by Entropy Stew 08/28/2008, 11:22pm PDT
Additionally... by Entropy Stew 08/29/2008, 1:02am PDT
Would you consider OpenAI's chatGPT 4 to have passed the Turing test? NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 10/06/2023, 10:20pm PDT
More literate spam NT by mark 08/28/2008, 11:03pm PDT
Re: Yeah, no one cares that ELIZA fooled some idiot back in 1967 when people... by Bananadine 08/28/2008, 6:59pm PDT
I spent like 20 minutes reading those transcripts (logs). Mostly the human ones! NT by Fussbett 08/29/2008, 2:37pm PDT
I'm with Fussbett NT by Last 08/28/2008, 1:35pm PDT
Re: The Long Bets (Mitchell Kapor vs Raymond Kurzweil / Fussbett vs Ray of Light by motherfuckerfoodeater 08/28/2008, 1:36pm PDT
What, no love for SLAC? by laudablepuss 08/28/2008, 2:47pm PDT
SPLAC? Compared to the obvious joke-name of the Large Hadron Collider? Come on! by motherfuckerfoodeater 08/28/2008, 5:35pm PDT
Futurists by Fussbett 08/29/2008, 2:34am PDT
Re: Futurists by Mischief Maker 08/29/2008, 7:57am PDT
DNA is involved in thinking . . . how exactly? (Hint: in no way whatsoever.) NT by laudablepuss 08/29/2008, 1:01pm PDT
I'm moving all of my money into this thread. BUY! BUY! NT by Caltrops meme futures trader 08/29/2008, 1:42pm PDT
untrue. Neurons use changes in gene expression to store information.___________ by blackwater 11/12/2013, 10:00pm PST
It makes his statement true by laudablepuss 11/13/2013, 12:31pm PST
Interesting, but that's epigenetic, not genetic NT by Entropy Stew 11/13/2013, 2:30pm PST
YALLS MOM IS epigenetic NT by I had to paste that cos I couldn't 11/13/2013, 2:38pm PST
Hello! NT by Kraftwerk 08/29/2008, 2:11pm PDT
Hi! How many people are in Kraftwerk? Is that number more than one? Peace out. NT by Fussbett 08/29/2008, 2:36pm PDT
You're probably thinking of Georgio Moroder or someone like that v_v NT by Jerry Whorebach 08/29/2008, 10:58pm PDT
Re: Futurists by Quétinbec 08/31/2008, 1:06am PDT
Stop projecting your issues onto me! by Fussbett 08/31/2008, 7:50am PDT
Re: Stop projecting your issues onto me! by Quétinbec 09/01/2008, 5:07am PDT
Your girlfriend is in scare quotes - new site motto plz NT by Bunyip 09/01/2008, 6:20pm PDT
I will do it in the hopes that we get more Bunyip, whom I enjoy NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 09/01/2008, 9:20pm PDT
Ugh, when will ICJ stop bribing posters just to post? by Fussbett 09/01/2008, 9:37pm PDT
"girlfriend" is for out-of-country temporary make-do girlfriends. by Fussbett 09/01/2008, 8:00pm PDT
Re: "girlfriend" is for out-of-country temporary make-do girlfriends. by Quétinbec 09/02/2008, 6:43am PDT
How WOULD a 65 year old millionaire hope to get laid, QB? NT by FABIO 09/02/2008, 10:42am PDT
He would mostly play computer games but occassionally whore. NT by Quétinbec 09/03/2008, 10:50pm PDT
See if the Malay "girlfriend" will act as an older sister figure to the new "GF" by Fussbett 09/04/2008, 4:50am PDT
She would rather murder us both. by Quétinbec 09/04/2008, 7:12pm PDT
You already know you can subdue her physically. by Fussbett 09/04/2008, 9:39pm PDT
Hurry up and inherit a farm, Fussbett! NT by SHEESH! 09/05/2008, 8:25am PDT
prease dont lie to good peopur by malay mango 09/05/2008, 2:27am PDT
Re: prease dont lie to good peopur by Quétinbec 09/06/2008, 8:16am PDT
Re: prease dont lie to good peopur by malay mango 09/06/2008, 10:26pm PDT
yeah, the guy obviously bleached his hair NT by people with eyes 09/08/2008, 3:56pm PDT
Re: Futurists by lurkie 02/03/2009, 8:17pm PST
2008 Loebner Prize winner fools 25% of the judges by Fussbett 11/10/2008, 1:42pm PST
You sound like Sara Palin (a stupid fuckin slut) by Jerry Whorebach 11/10/2008, 2:25pm PST
Q: A/S/L? A: "The answer is z." by Zsenitan 11/10/2008, 2:53pm PST
Re: 2008 Loebner Prize winner fools 25% of the judges by Entropy Stew 11/10/2008, 3:58pm PST
Re: 2008 Loebner Prize winner fools 25% of the judges by motherfuckerfoodeater 11/10/2008, 4:14pm PST
Re: 2008 Loebner Prize winner fools 25% of the judges by bombMexico 11/10/2008, 6:43pm PST
I got it to out itself. by Rafiki 11/10/2008, 11:10pm PST
you arrogant ass you killed US NT by Weyoun Voidbringer 11/10/2008, 11:49pm PST
What if the torpedo missed the sub after he said that? by I need clarification 11/11/2008, 2:54am PST
Rafiki is consistently my favorite poster NT by Caltrops 11/11/2008, 4:10pm PST
oh my god by fabio 09/18/2013, 5:20am PDT
Hahahaha by Eurotrash 09/18/2013, 1:50pm PDT
What happened by Ice Cream Jonsey 09/18/2013, 3:28pm PDT
Ach, my post was just a slight anxiety attack, the result of an evening of by Eurotrash 09/19/2013, 12:42pm PDT
Re: 2008 Loebner Prize winner fools 25% of the judges by Magnus, Robot Fighter 11/12/2008, 11:54am PST
Latest Kurzweil circle-jerk not lending him or his predictions any credibility. by motherfuckerfoodeater 02/03/2009, 6:13am PST
How much is the Wired staff masturbating about this news? by Fussbett 02/03/2009, 1:48pm PST
CHANCELLOR NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 02/03/2009, 2:03pm PST
That's fancy academic-speak for the guy with THE FINEST of the oak pipes. NT by motherfuckerfoodeater 02/03/2009, 5:34pm PST
Bertrand Russell never got to be a Chancellor =/ NT by Fortinbras 03/22/2009, 1:25am PDT
Psh and Grizzly Adams had a beard. NT by Shooter McGavin 03/22/2009, 11:16am PDT
*scary as shit graph* by Ray of Light 03/21/2009, 6:17pm PDT
Or cool as shit. 8) NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 03/21/2009, 6:23pm PDT
Unless Kurzweil is short for Future-Kurzweil, how the H.G. Wells would he know? NT by Gruman 03/21/2009, 6:44pm PDT
reddit post addressing this very question by Ray of Light 03/21/2009, 7:39pm PDT
Re: reddit post addressing this very question by Entropy Stew 03/21/2009, 9:10pm PDT
That was written by me (for reddit) by Ray of Light 03/22/2009, 9:31am PDT
Re: That was written by me (for reddit) by E. L. Koba 03/22/2009, 10:12am PDT
time and progress turn compute problems into I/O problems by Ray of Light 03/22/2009, 12:23pm PDT
Senor Barborito by Fussbett 03/22/2009, 3:04pm PDT
Re: Senor Barborito by Entropy Stew 03/23/2009, 1:32am PDT
Not true~~~! by Zsenitan 03/24/2009, 9:26am PDT
So true NT by Kab(uke) Seme 01/17/2014, 1:03pm PST
Re: That was written by me (for reddit) by Mischief Maker 03/22/2009, 2:58pm PDT
Re: That was written by me (for reddit) by Ray of Light 03/24/2009, 8:09am PDT
Layman with questions, at the risk of sounding stupid! by Fussbett 03/27/2009, 10:35am PDT
Re: Layman with questions, at the risk of sounding stupid! by laudablepuss 03/27/2009, 12:16pm PDT
Re: Layman with questions, at the risk of sounding stupid! by Ray of Light 03/27/2009, 1:19pm PDT
A few other things by Ray of Light 03/27/2009, 1:35pm PDT
Re: Layman with questions, at the risk of sounding stupid! by Fussbett 03/27/2009, 2:13pm PDT
(which is why I was using 10^16) NT by Fussbett 03/27/2009, 2:21pm PDT
Cat Brain achieved by Choson 11/18/2009, 11:16am PST
"The thinking part of the brain!" by motherfuckerfoodeater 11/18/2009, 2:01pm PST
Re: "The thinking part of the brain!" by Backpropagating Stew 11/19/2009, 7:41pm PST
No by motherfuckerfoodeater 11/19/2009, 11:15pm PST
Update log: Ray is closing in on the prize (in his mind) by Fussbett 04/05/2010, 1:26pm PDT
Q1 2011 update: Computers good at Jeopardy (reference to "tweets" still ok) NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 02/20/2011, 5:17pm PST
sliding public idea of "what a computer can do" now biggest threat to my victory by Ray of Light 03/15/2011, 12:57am PDT
What do you think about surprise? NT by ELIZA 03/15/2011, 4:35am PDT
Twitter bots fool over 200 followers by E. L. Koba 03/27/2011, 6:05pm PDT
2012 Loebner Contest Website dumber than average Loebner chatbot by Souffle of Pain 05/18/2012, 3:13pm PDT
"The judge's questions appear in the bottom two panes." NT by WELL DUH what language ISN'T read f 05/19/2012, 8:32am PDT
Not looking good, Ray NT by Mysterious Stranger 01/01/2013, 8:51pm PST
Oh yeah? Computers are now taking on comedy. Already as funny as TDARCOS by Smell Gibson 01/04/2013, 7:10pm PST
Ray Kurzweil is now Google's director of engineering by Mr. Kool 01/02/2013, 8:17pm PST
It is not. by motherfuckerfoodeater 01/02/2013, 8:58pm PST
2013 Loebner Prize winner's qualifier round by Mitsuku 09/18/2013, 3:28am PDT
What happens if the test is "passed" by obvious moron judges? NT by viDEEooo! 11/14/2013, 5:59am PST
Two more years, Ray! NT by Ray of Light Fan 01/01/2014, 9:36pm PST
Supercomputer takes 40m to simulate less than 1% of brain for 1 second. by Last 01/13/2014, 2:57pm PST
Paid out at 80 cents on the dollar by Ray of Light 02/25/2014, 2:10am PST
A fine conclusion. One of the hallmarks of Caltrops. NT by Shredder 02/25/2014, 7:40am PST
"Will Ray or Fussbett still post to Caltrops by 2015" would have been a better b NT by Mysterio 05/14/2014, 10:42pm PDT
Re: Paid out at 80 cents on the dollar by laudablepuss 02/25/2014, 11:10am PST
Re: Paid out at 80 cents on the dollar by Ice Cream Jonsey 02/25/2014, 11:53am PST
Maybe you paid up too soon by laudablepuss 06/09/2014, 1:27pm PDT
You got played by Captain Cyborg by Entropy Stew 06/09/2014, 9:10pm PDT
This is why I don't make bets with real money :( NT by laudablepuss 06/09/2014, 9:15pm PDT
PSH, I've seen better chatbots by Ray Kurzwell 06/11/2014, 8:29am PDT
No I'm a 13 year old little boy, I swear NT by To Catch an AI 06/11/2014, 4:35pm PDT
Stinky is going into a counter top MAME "cabinet". Stinks less after the timeout NT by FSBT 06/10/2014, 9:52pm PDT
Where do you post these days, Ray? NT by Mysterio Lollerson 02/11/2016, 7:41pm PST
2 chat bots have at it by oooooooooooo! 09/28/2014, 7:59pm PDT
Fussbett wins by Fussbett 01/01/2016, 11:25pm PST
Re: Fussbett wins by Rafiki 01/02/2016, 10:56am PST
The biggest upset of this thread by fabio 01/02/2016, 9:05pm PST
Re: The biggest upset of this thread by X 08/30/2023, 6:12am PDT
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