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Not true for King of Dragon Pass. I have no explanation for why KoDP was as fun as it was, but it's essentially a 4x with emergent storytelling done as close to right as has been seen so far. You have the possibility for genuinely different playthroughs all focused entirely on story, you have enough events that you'll never see them all in ten playthroughs, and you have a sufficiently different mindset required that the diegesis actually matters. Pair that with a means to keep track of past events and not just their effects (oh look, +15 to the relations counter, how exciting) and you have the possibility for an overarching story to emerge.
Except that KoDP games always follow a certain core formula, I suppose. Still, makes up for the somewhat cartoony setting. Go play it if you haven't, you may experience childlike wonder or just find it a different kind of game than those you're familiar with.
The Paradox grand strats provide a drier version of emergent storytelling that mostly relies on player ARRs, but if you're a big fat history hobbyist it's something to jerk off into for when all your copies of Decline and Fall have the pages stuck together at the good parts. "Oh Mark Antony, tell us how honorable Brutus was again! YES."
Dwarf Fortress has the spergiest variety, but some find it amusing enough and use it to fill the gaping hole in their lives. This is the player and not the game, and absolutely what you describe except it does not rely on glitches. |
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Here is the thread where I convince ICJ to buy Endless Space by 4xgamer 11/28/2012, 6:38pm PST 
How many planets per system? Just one or potentially more? NT by fucking newbie 11/28/2012, 8:17pm PST
Re: How many planets per system? Just one or potentially more? by 4xgamer 11/28/2012, 8:59pm PST
You DO have to colonize the planets separately, though. NT by You don't just get 'em all for free 11/28/2012, 9:00pm PST
And the combat sucks. by Fullofkittens 11/28/2012, 9:05pm PST
From the combat footage I've seen, this could be fixed with time-intensive moddi by fucking newbie 11/28/2012, 9:16pm PST
From the combat footage I've seen, this could be fixed with time-intensive moddi by Ice Cream Jonsey 11/28/2012, 9:25pm PST
So if we ever need to wreck your brain we just have to mention lunar exploration NT by fucking newbie 11/29/2012, 1:13am PST
What the fuck is "emergent storytelling" anyway? by Mischief Maker 11/28/2012, 10:15pm PST
Re: What the fuck is "emergent storytelling" anyway? by Ice Cream Jonsey 11/28/2012, 10:20pm PST
Re: What the fuck is "emergent storytelling" anyway? by matt mysterio 11/28/2012, 10:32pm PST
You managed to capture shitty emergent storytelling. One ivory tower for you! by fucking newbie 11/29/2012, 12:51am PST
The combat is fine if you find tactical battles annoying and disruptive. by durg 11/29/2012, 9:41am PST
Re: From the combat footage I've seen, this could be fixed with time-intensive by Arbit 11/29/2012, 10:01am PST
Re: From the combat footage I've seen, this could be fixed with time-intensive by fucking newbie 11/29/2012, 1:03pm PST
You're ruining a beautiful game with your pedantic shit. NT by Welcome to Caltrops 11/29/2012, 6:01pm PST
It's 'pedantry.' Like this post. And thanks for poppin' my cherry, money's on NT by the bedside table 11/29/2012, 11:07pm PST
Re: And the combat sucks. by Ice Cream Jonsey 11/28/2012, 9:24pm PST
I am now prepared to answer your stupid complaints about the combat: by EatingContest 12/01/2012, 9:59pm PST
Er, bad Admiral, not bad General, I suppose. NT by EatingContest 12/01/2012, 10:00pm PST
This doesn't solve the problem of the combat being formulaic and boring. by fucking newbie 12/02/2012, 6:47pm PST
I dunno what you're talking about. This is 4x not space combat simulator. by EatingContest 12/02/2012, 9:39pm PST
Tactical battles would greatly improve Civilization. by Mischief Shai-hulud 12/02/2012, 9:55pm PST
This. Although it's not a dealbreaker so much as inexcusable. by fucking newbie 12/02/2012, 10:20pm PST
Iiiiif you played something for seven years, iiiiit might not be that badly desi by EatingContest 12/03/2012, 4:56pm PST
Because you played it with me and know what I experienced! Cunt. by trolled newbie 12/03/2012, 5:41pm PST
Honestly I haven't understood a single goddamn thing you've said NT by But you seem cute so lol 12/03/2012, 5:45pm PST
Except when they didn't by fabio 12/03/2012, 12:18am PST
I quit with Civ 3. It most definitely had that problem. NT by Mischief Mech 12/03/2012, 9:09pm PST
Ok, they solved it in both 4 and 5 by fabio 12/03/2012, 11:44pm PST
When you stop worrying about cavemen driving speedboats full of explosives NT by is when battleships get fuckin sunk 12/03/2012, 2:16am PST
^emergent storytelling NT by Siskel and Ebert 12/03/2012, 9:54pm PST
Ground-based games get a pass because they have ground, things on the ground by Arbit 12/03/2012, 9:52am PST
Re: Ground-based games get a pass because they have ground, things on the ground by WITTGENSTEIN 12/03/2012, 1:53pm PST
Let's go back to this by Arbit 12/03/2012, 5:31pm PST
Overwhelm and autoresolve is middle management, not strategic genius by Entropy Stew 12/03/2012, 6:27pm PST
Strategic genius is not tactical genius. NT by I can't believe I had to- wait, yea 12/03/2012, 6:32pm PST
VERY GOOD *pats head* EC dismissed tactics entirely and talked of strategy by Entropy Stew 12/03/2012, 7:28pm PST
I guess I won? "You fucking idiot" is like the badge of victory here or somethi NT by Everyone's Sun Tzu in PurpleTown 12/03/2012, 9:22pm PST
Yes, here's your internet victory for being right on caltrops. Long may you NT by treasure it. 12/04/2012, 12:18am PST
Re: How many planets per system? Just one or potentially more? by Ice Cream Jonsey 11/28/2012, 9:07pm PST
Come on now, ICJ. You know exactly how to get it between Steam and grift. NT by Mysterio 11/29/2012, 12:55am PST
Re: Come on now, ICJ. You know exactly how to get it between Steam and grift. by Ice Cream Jonsey 11/29/2012, 10:51am PST
Re: Here is the thread where I convince ICJ to buy Endless Space by Ice Cream Jonsey 11/28/2012, 9:05pm PST
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