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by fabio 08/22/2013, 9:13am PDT |
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Horrible Gelatinous Blob wrote:
The more important exchange in the film is between Elastigirl and Dash, when he wants to know why he's not allowed to go out for sports and do his best and his mother tells him that right now they have to fit in, followed by the first appearance of the "If everyone is special, than no one is" line from Dash. It's no coincidence that the first time in the film that we hear this, it's from a ten year old boy. Dash wants to know why he can't dominate others with his god-given skills and abilities and doesn't understand his mother's message of the importance of fitting in and what "everyone's special" really means, instead attributing it to authority's rules shackling him from being his true self. Likewise, the sheltered, emotionally undeveloped man-children who think The Incredibles is a powerful tract addressing the plight of the gifted in a world of mediocrity don't understand why normal people don't like to be around them and fail to recognize the importance of being kind and welcoming to others, instead attributing it to fear and jealous of their intellect.
When Elastigirl says that everyone's special, she's trying to help Dash understand that other people's lives are not necessarily less important or less valuable than their own just because they don't have powers. When Dash says that means no one is, he's rejecting that premise, petuantly asking what the point of having powers is if he isn't more important, more valuable? Again, this isn't an unusual or evil position for a ten year old to take, considering their lack of life experience and level of emotional development. However, when Syndrome, a grown man, wields the same position as a threat, it demonstrates his inability to think outside of himself. Dash believes that his specialness is only worthwhile if demonstrated to others, others less special than him. Similarly, Syndrome believes that if he removes the Incredibles' ability to demonstrate their specialness to others less special than themselves, then they will be hurt. He believes this because he is a ten year old boy emotionally.
Self improvement through competition and teamwork.
What message does it send for a parent to tell their kid to enroll in a sport they could excel in, then throw every game? He's The Flash at running, joins a solitaire sport that's nothing but running, then is told he can never win. Downright psychotic parenting. A good movie would have shown the kid working with normals in a team sport with minimal running like baseball, trying his best on a level playing field. |
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Anyone here like The Incredibles? They are making a sequel! by Kenji Carter 08/20/2013, 11:29am PDT
Let it go Jonesy, The Fantastic Four was going to suck no matter what. NT by Brad Bird (Hates you) 08/20/2013, 6:38pm PDT
Re: Let it go Jonesy, The Fantastic Four was going to suck no matter what. by Ice Cream Jonsey 08/20/2013, 10:05pm PDT
Best Pixar movie but horrible ok. NT by Last 08/21/2013, 6:16am PDT
The Incredibles got an internet backlash for being too "Ayn Rand". NT by Gutsby 08/21/2013, 9:07am PDT
do a Caltrops search for "incredibles" by Fullofkittens 08/21/2013, 11:25am PDT
Where does save anywhere fit into the ICJ autobiography? by WITTGENSTEIN 08/21/2013, 12:05pm PDT
I pressed f5 to save for 30 years then suddenly it didn't work by Ice Cream Jonsey 08/21/2013, 12:15pm PDT
There definitely is a fucked up "Wait, what???" line in the movie by Mischief Maker 08/21/2013, 3:08pm PDT
Re: There definitely is a fucked up "Wait, what???" line in the movie by Ice Cream Jonsey 08/21/2013, 3:59pm PDT
I was wrong, he's a genius by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/17/2015, 10:36am PDT
Family Dog is great by Vested Id 03/17/2015, 12:48pm PDT
Speaking of gingers: TIL Seamus Blackley spent about 5 of the last 10 years as a by Vested Id 03/17/2015, 1:02pm PDT
In any sensible world, Winston Churchill would've been a bad guy, too. by Jerry Whorebach 08/21/2013, 5:53pm PDT
Still being a royal subject, you've probably got more expertise than me. by Mischief Maker 08/21/2013, 6:49pm PDT
It was a mess of hack job trying to be a kiddie friendly Watchmen by fabio 08/21/2013, 7:23pm PDT
Why doesn't it surprise me that Caltrops completely misses the key themes here? by Horrible Gelatinous Blob 08/21/2013, 10:55pm PDT
home run. jog around the bases waving to crowd. NT by Last 08/22/2013, 5:44am PDT
Also, my disdain for supermodels and respect for superheroes by Edna Mode 08/22/2013, 5:47am PDT
Why can't these movies be like fucking Toy Story anymore? NT by Worm 08/22/2013, 6:11am PDT
Thanks, pinback. That wall of text misses the point of school sports by fabio 08/22/2013, 9:13am PDT
Yep, wall of text, that sure is pinback by Pinback appreciation society 08/22/2013, 10:14am PDT
ok thanks Kenji by Souffle of Pain 08/22/2013, 10:15am PDT
Re: Thanks, pinback. That wall of text misses the point of school sports by Rafiki 08/22/2013, 10:26am PDT
So now you're complaining about the parenting choices of fictional characters by Horrible Gelatinous Blob 08/22/2013, 11:50am PDT
So now you're complaining about the parenting choices of fictional characters by Kenji Carter 08/22/2013, 1:01pm PDT
That's not psychopathic given the circumstances. by Gutsby 08/22/2013, 12:15pm PDT
Thank you. by Oom Shnibble 03/18/2015, 10:54am PDT
I on the other hand, have NO insecurities! NT by Oom #humblebrag 03/18/2015, 5:25pm PDT
Bragging about seeing the hidden truths that the stupids couldnt by fabio 03/19/2015, 5:03pm PDT
Did anyone touch upon the fact that he's a genetic super freak himself? by Entropy Stew 08/22/2013, 10:41am PDT
It's a kids movie. With as much coherence as Michael Bay befor his morning 8ball NT by blackwater 03/19/2015, 11:39pm PDT
I STILL HAVEN'T SLEPT by Entropy Stew 03/20/2015, 7:02am PDT
Heh. I had the same problems with postgres. /clanks pints by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/20/2015, 9:01am PDT
I've ifuped my eth0... ifup yours by blackwater 03/20/2015, 11:30pm PDT
Graphic representation of eth0 with misconfigured ovirt by Entropy Stew 03/21/2015, 12:09am PDT
I am Lum, Ice Cream Jonesy, all Mysterios and Brad Bird. NT by Kenji Carter 08/21/2013, 9:18am PDT
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