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Double Fine Adventure
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by VG Subsidies 09/20/2014, 6:21pm PDT |
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All I can at this point is agree with ICJ that these fuckers don't truly appreciate the free money they've been given. They deserve the current video game publishing system, because it's the one they need.
Without that system they've lost the vetting & budgeting that happens around pre-producion. That is replaced with the car crash of 30-day advertising hype. Money from a successful campaign pours down, lump sum, lacking the normal discretion or oversight. It's even worse when you've already shipped in the past, and understand the process, to then throw out the idea of scoping & healthy skepticism.
To touch on Jerry's question above, why do all Kickstarters assume that just because they're getting more money, that people want that much of a better project?
This is in part influenced by the KS advisors: "add stretch goals to squeeze more clicks in the last leg". KS is mainly thinking about press, and calculating their cut. There's absolutely no rule to listen to them, but allegedly they're quite pervasive/persuasive once a big project nears its goal in record time. A terrible place to put yourself if you've never [self-]published before. Using the initial call for funding as a kiosk to sell "pre-orders" when you lack the experience is a losing strategy. There's no way you can meet the promises of what is a short term marketing blitz.
As an aside: I also get the impression that way too much time and money feeds back into reward fulfillment. If you're creating a game go with a download only. If you want to make t-shirts? Sell those later, and do it through an established service that can press their own tees, and ship high volumes. I've browsed way too many Backer Updates where a small team is swamped with rooms full of dumb knicknacks to mail out. Are you fucking crazy? That's a fulltime job!
Leisure Suit Larry FAQ wrote:
We really want to hit #8 out of the ball park so being 100% honest here, that means we have to save up enough money from the sales of 1-7 to make #8 which we see costing roughly $5 - $8 million dollars. Al Lowe's games are in better hands than Schaefer's.
I respect the honesty in that answer. That's the kind of realism missing from the wide marketplace of Kickstarter Gaming Graft. |
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Now you know what it's like to publish a Tim Schaefer game by Horrible Gelatinous Blob 07/03/2013, 12:29am PDT
Well two of the top five funded video game kickstarters are a disappointment by Worm 07/03/2013, 9:50am PDT
Star Citizen is technically in the top 5. NT by WITTGENSTEIN 07/04/2013, 4:46pm PDT
You're being too hard on him. I'd like to see you work with 750% of initial budg NT by Geniuses don't understand spreadshe 07/04/2013, 9:53am PDT
So Erik wasn't joking about working for that guy. NT by MM 07/04/2013, 10:32am PDT
Re: Now you know what it's like to publish a Tim Schaefer game by Souffle of Pain 07/04/2013, 5:58pm PDT
Play4Real Gaming is once again correct by The Warezwolf 07/05/2013, 11:33am PDT
at what point do you start rooting for the kickstarter scammers? by Com Thick 07/05/2013, 2:00pm PDT
You're replying to a joke article. You're aware of that, right? NT by Of course you are. 07/05/2013, 2:12pm PDT
I pulled a TDARCOS. I apologize :( by Com Thick 07/05/2013, 2:23pm PDT
Eh, uh, oh, I was sleeping. Did someone mention my name? Oh. Ok. Zzzzzzzzzzzzz NT by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 07/07/2013, 2:20pm PDT
Ah shit by The Warezwolf 07/05/2013, 2:24pm PDT
Question for anyone who backed this, or even seriously considered it. by Jerry Whorebach 07/05/2013, 4:08pm PDT
Re: Question for anyone who backed this, or even seriously considered it. by Ice Cream Jonsey 07/05/2013, 10:35pm PDT
Diaspora asked for more money today NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 08/27/2013, 3:29pm PDT
I wouldn't have cared if they put the money into the game and actually finished by Rafiki 07/06/2013, 8:33am PDT
future torrenter, just as soon get all at once, still outraged NT by bombmexico 07/07/2013, 8:04pm PDT
hahaha NT by Brandon Flick 08/29/2013, 10:05pm PDT
Good thing they ended their other Kickstarter a few days before saying this by skip 07/07/2013, 7:26pm PDT
Re: Good thing they ended their other Kickstarter a few days before saying this by VG Subsidies 09/20/2014, 6:21pm PDT
They're abandoning an Early Access game, DF-9 by skip 09/20/2014, 9:04am PDT
ICJ and others who backed it. Now that the full game is out, what do you think? NT by skip 05/07/2015, 8:45pm PDT
ICJ and others who backed it. Now that the full game is out, what do you think? by Ice Cream Jonsey 05/08/2015, 4:07pm PDT
Sucked, not worth it. Contains spoilers for the awful plot by Rafiki 05/09/2015, 2:39pm PDT
Embarrassing revelation time by fabio 05/09/2015, 7:18pm PDT
Need a KickStarter to make fabio post his Psychonauts screenplay. Name your pric NT by Fabio Funder 05/10/2015, 3:59am PDT
Funding goal: whatever Schafer or his publisher is charging for the movie rights NT by fabio 05/10/2015, 1:39pm PDT
So he literally steals a major plot point from Puella Magi Madoka Magica? by Worm 05/10/2015, 9:33am PDT
Or Bioshock. NT by skip 05/10/2015, 6:10pm PDT
Four and a half years later, a year and a half after the full release, and I jus by Rafiki 11/17/2016, 10:42am PST
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