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TELL ME #GG ISNT ABOUT SEXISM!!! wrote:
If you think that rescuing women from cartoony villains in videogames (as opposed to rescuing women from mean internet comments) leading to any kind of tangible real life harm is "pretty common sense stuff", then I'm not sure anything anyone says is going to convince you otherwise.
This part wasn't in the videos I watched. Or maybe it was and I just forgot it, I dunno. Can you give me a link?
TELL ME #GG ISNT ABOUT SEXISM!!! wrote:
I'll direct you to her most glaringly wrong bit, the Hitman video. She takes a single room from a single level that takes place in a strip club, where you encounter two strippers in their dressing room. The fact that you CAN kill them (it's much easier to sneak past them, which is what every single Let's Play on Youtube does) and drag around their bodies just like every other person in the game (95% are men) is proof that the game encourages the player to "desecrate the female form" (you are penalized points for every civilian you kill).
That alone should be the end all demonstration of the honesty and critical thinking of video gaming's foremost "culture critic". If you still can't see how there is no difference between what she does and FOX News calling Mass Effect a sex simulator or how Bulletstorm is responsible for real life rape epidemics, then I give up.
Yeah see this is what I was looking for. I think found the right video, and to save myself a whole lot of scrubbing past a physically unappealing (but not so grossly unappealing I can't still feel a little bit proud of myself for metaphorically kicking her out of bed) gypsy woman I just searched "hitman" in the transcript.
Since we are discussing the intersections of objectification and interaction, we also need to consider some more direct aspects of objectification that are not as applicable in traditional mass media.
Building off of philosopher Martha Nussbaum’s work on “objectification theory”, I’ve identified a number of fundamental aspects of objectification including instrumentality, commodification, interchangeability, violability and disposability, all of which are commonly embedded into the gameplay mechanics and programmed behaviors of NPCs in modern immersive titles.
Since instrumentality is a core component of objectification, let’s begin there. In the realm of interactive media I use the term “instrumentality” to refer to the practice of using virtual women as tools or props for the player’s own purposes.
Clip: Assassin’s Creed 4
“I’m terribly well informed about coun-try matters.”
Courtesans in the Assassins Creed series, for instance, are available to be “rented” and used to help you “blend in” to the environment. Once acquired, they can be ordered to flirt with guards to distract them…
Clip: Assasin’s Creed 4
“Alright go.”
…allowing the protagonist to slip by undetected.
Clip: Assasin’s Creed 4
“Come on, I’m a real snake charmer”
Hitman: Absolution features a mission in which the player can create a diversion by picking up and dumping the dead body of an exotic dancer near police officers.
Clip: Hitman: Absolution
“Oh! What the fuck? Ah shit… that wasn’t there a minute ago.”
The first three games in the Saints Row series feature a recurring activity called “snatch”.
Clip: Saints Row
“Now if you could bring me back some of those fine bitches who are turning tricks for other pimps, I could start seeing some real money. But I ain’t asking for something for nothing, I mean you help me out I’ll cut you in on what the bitches make.”
These missions require the player to steal prostituted women, referred to as “hoes” in the game from pimps…
Clip: Saints Row
“Get away from my hoes you little bitch”
…and then deliver them to a brothel or another pimp in return for a cut of their “business”.
Is there some context I'm missing for this to make it sound as scary as your post lead me to believe or are you just a huge pussy?
Also I couldn't find the part about desecrating the female form at all. You can say a lot of shit about this chick but at least she knows how to use inverted commas :/ |
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You never knew me. I have to go. by Mysterio 09/06/2014, 6:18pm PDT
Goodbye nonexistent person! NT by say hello to santa claus for me 09/06/2014, 10:37pm PDT
Goodbye random internet faggot. NT by Mysterio 09/07/2014, 7:42am PDT
You'll be back NT by WITTGENSTEIN 09/07/2014, 7:54am PDT
Next tues, etc... by E. L. Koba 09/07/2014, 11:48am PDT
Good luck learning to like girls in the merchant navy or whatever the fuck? NT by Jerry Whorebach 09/08/2014, 2:52pm PDT
Two years before the mast by laudablepuss 09/08/2014, 3:01pm PDT
Any good shrink will tell you misogyny is a mental disorder caused by women. NT by Gutsby 09/08/2014, 3:56pm PDT
Can I have your stuff? NT by every MMOG fag ever 09/08/2014, 8:55pm PDT
Re: You never knew me. I have to go. by Curious Lurker from Years Ago 10/10/2014, 10:39pm PDT
Fabio/MM and others make fun of trigger warnings and anita sarkeesian. NT by Therefore they are anti-women. QED 10/11/2014, 7:23am PDT
Re: Fabio/MM and others make fun of trigger warnings and anita sarkeesian. by TAFKAM 10/13/2014, 5:20am PDT
She's not dumb. by Mischief Freshmaker 10/13/2014, 6:12am PDT
She's an opportunist who found a way to make a living rewriting college papers by re: 10/13/2014, 11:00am PDT
If she's been writing about the same things for years... doesn't that make her NT by ...NOT an opportunist? 10/13/2014, 12:37pm PDT
She was trying to start an MLM scam before she stumbled onto kickstarter NT by Therefore they are anti-women. QED 10/13/2014, 2:18pm PDT
Being a hack does not exclude you from being an opportunist. NT by Mischief Freshmaker 10/13/2014, 3:09pm PDT
Ew. No do not want. by TAFKAM 10/15/2014, 4:47am PDT
Well now we know what the hoop earrings are supposed to distract from. NT by Horrible Misogynist 10/15/2014, 7:48am PDT
Her ugly ass clothes? by Eurotrash 10/15/2014, 9:08am PDT
Her baggy clothes say she's not defined by her appearance! by Horrible Misogynist 10/15/2014, 9:32am PDT
Her huge ass nose? NT by Toucan Sam 10/15/2014, 1:42pm PDT
she looks like she's having fun NT by Mysterio 10/15/2014, 8:58am PDT
Yeah she's excited. She's all like "Go on game, objectify women. Make it rain" by Eurotrash 10/15/2014, 9:11am PDT
Gamergate is about journalistic ethics. by Sexism is not a problem 10/15/2014, 10:40am PDT
Last I heard, gamersgate had nothing to do with Sarkeesian. by Payola Maker 10/15/2014, 10:45am PDT
Gamergate is now getting conflated with tech's larger misogyny problem by Fullofkittens 10/15/2014, 5:09pm PDT
Except her ideas ARE about women's appearance. by TELL ME #GG ISNT ABOUT SEXISM!!! 10/15/2014, 5:25pm PDT
To be fair, it's very difficult to stay awake through her videos. NT by Mischief Maker 10/15/2014, 5:58pm PDT
She works on-camera and tries to look presentable. by Fullofkittens 10/15/2014, 6:02pm PDT
You know those conservatives who run their entire platform on family values? by TELL ME #GG ISNT ABOUT SEXISM!!! 10/15/2014, 6:13pm PDT
I bet that isn't a fair comparison, but who the hell knows. by Fullofkittens 10/15/2014, 6:18pm PDT
You not knowing is a running theme here. Go watch her videos. NT by TELL ME #GG ISNT ABOUT SEXISM!!! 10/16/2014, 12:49am PDT
No, she IS dressing like shit INTENTIONALLY. But it's pure phoniness. NT by Horrible Misogynist 10/15/2014, 9:27pm PDT
Making us watch her videos to comment on them is basically setting up by an impossible test. 10/15/2014, 6:20pm PDT
Re: Making us watch her videos to comment on them is basically setting up by My usual complaint 10/15/2014, 6:33pm PDT
Re: Making us watch her videos to comment on them is basically setting up by TELL ME #GG ISNT ABOUT SEXISM!!! 10/15/2014, 7:09pm PDT
Re: Making us watch her videos to comment on them is basically setting up by an impossible test. 10/15/2014, 8:07pm PDT
Re: Making us watch her videos to comment on them is basically setting up by Therefore they are anti-women. QED 10/15/2014, 9:03pm PDT
Re: Making us watch her videos to comment on them is basically setting up by an impossible test. 10/15/2014, 10:14pm PDT
The death threats sent to these women were sent from themselves. NT by kate leth 10/15/2014, 6:16pm PDT
Here is an especially frightening gamergate death threat! by kate leth 10/15/2014, 9:34pm PDT
Who ARE the guys threatening women? by Worm 10/15/2014, 6:38pm PDT
That is a legit question. Here's my take on it by Fullofkittens 10/15/2014, 7:11pm PDT
That's a good way to put it, but I think the issue with this current crap is ... by Worm 10/15/2014, 7:48pm PDT
So if you're willing to take that kind of consideration by TELL ME #GG ISNT ABOUT SEXISM!!! 10/16/2014, 12:48am PDT
No one should watch those boring videos though. by Worm 10/16/2014, 7:56am PDT
Re: That is a legit question. Here's my take on it by TAFKAM 10/16/2014, 5:12am PDT
Re: Gamergate is now getting conflated with tech's larger misogyny problem by TAFKAM 10/16/2014, 4:35am PDT
Are we now gamergate? by Worm 10/15/2014, 11:07am PDT
Re: Gamergate is about journalistic ethics. by Souffle of Pain 10/15/2014, 11:33am PDT
Re: Gamergate is about journalistic ethics. by A FRIEND 10/15/2014, 3:49pm PDT
Her message that princess rescuing leads to real life rape would still be stupid by TELL ME #GG ISNT ABOUT SEXISM!!! 10/15/2014, 4:15pm PDT
Her videos are just as insulting as Roger Ebert's Videogames ‚ art comment. NT by Double Standard 10/15/2014, 4:29pm PDT
Re: Gamergate is about journalistic ethics. by TAFKAM 10/16/2014, 5:16am PDT
Re: Gamergate is about journalistic ethics. by Ice Cream Jonsey 10/16/2014, 8:38am PDT
Re: Gamergate is about journalistic ethics. by TAFKAM 10/16/2014, 9:07am PDT
You can find BDR at "brokenforum.com" by Mysterio 10/16/2014, 10:25am PDT
Was there a dramatic departure from Qt3? NT by fabio 10/16/2014, 11:44am PDT
Foodeater, you can't possibly be this dumb and myopic by TELL ME #GG ISNT ABOUT SEXISM!!! 10/15/2014, 2:56pm PDT
Whoa, disagree! I think? by Ice Cream Jonsey 10/15/2014, 4:11pm PDT
We don't disagree! by TELL ME #GG ISNT ABOUT SEXISM!!! 10/15/2014, 5:08pm PDT
Re: Whoa, disagree! I think? by TAFKAM 10/16/2014, 5:29am PDT
Steam store pages now have user reviews at the top and color coded by Casual steam user 10/16/2014, 7:24am PDT
I like to think it was Bioshock Infinite and Gone Home that made them by fabio 10/16/2014, 11:47am PDT
Not putting Metacritic ratings on games is a real plus. by Ice Cream Jonsey 10/18/2014, 4:29pm PDT
GG people are obviously fags, but so are you NT by Mysterio 10/15/2014, 3:07pm PDT
Let's be fair. by Mischief Maker 10/18/2014, 3:57pm PDT
There's honestly been fewer anti-women posts since this guy left. NT by Kenny Mayne 02/26/2017, 7:48pm PST
In it's place a natural anti-trans sentiment is naturally blossoming NT by Zseni's Main 02/26/2017, 8:34pm PST
Nah. by Kenny Mayne 02/27/2017, 9:31am PST
If you say you "subconsciously hate women", I don't think you subconsciously hat NT by e women 02/27/2017, 6:33am PST
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