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38% of men sexual assault victims;over 50% perps being women is less important? by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 02/24/2015, 6:41am PST
historian from the future wrote:

Commander Tansin A. Darcos wrote:

And I'm not doing anything near as important as this subject.

Here in the future, we disagree with this statement.


I have no idea how, but when I was typing in a response my message vanished, completely destroying what I wrote. I am pissed.

So here's some of the things they noted, more-or-less being ignored by mainstream media.

It was pointed out - after I was able to skip over the fluff and unimportant material - that what is more-or-less being completely ignored is the incidents of male victims of sexual assault where the perpetrator is a woman, trying to make it sound like it's extremely rare, because that fits in with the feminist view that men are always aggressors and women are always victims. It also skews the statistics and allows those who can use this for their personal aggrandizement for money, or power, to then unjustifiably put women into chronic fear of attack as almost exclusively by men.

Women do commit sexual assaults on men, and despite the fact the Centers For Disease Control are both hiding all the data and not classifying sexual assault of men by women (or women by women) the same way as classifying sexual assault of women by men, that the numbers are not mostly women, that men have serious threats too. According to the numbers they said the CDC reported, 38% of sexual assault victims are men (2012 crime victimization survey), and that 80% of the perpetrators of these assaults are women. And since this has to be given face-to-face with a surveyor, it's probably under reported.

And that in the case of prison rape, while 85% of prisoners are male, more of the assaults are not men on men, but female guards against men or women.

The statistics have even been modified to essentially exclude males as rape victims by declaring where a man forces a woman to have sex it is rape, but when a woman forces a man to have sex with her, that's "forced penetration."

I think the estimate was that a man arrested for rape has committed at least 5 offenses before they get caught for the first one. Women are less likely to be arrested for any crime, are less likely to be prosecuted, and tend to get lighter sentences. This means that women who commit rape - especially against men - are even less likely to be caught, if for no other reason than a man is even less likely to report if he was raped, and still less likely to report he was raped by a woman.

He may be even less likely to consider it rape. Guy wakes up with a massive hangover, in bed naked with some naked woman that "he wouldn't have fucked her under any circumstances if he was sober," having no memory of what happened, where there's clear evidence that they had sex, and what's his first thought? "I'll never get that drunk again that I would screw something like that." Reverse the sexes and what's her first thought? "He raped me while I was drunk." In almost no case is the guy going to believe she might have forced him or taken advantage of him.

Feminist literature would have it look like women are exclusively the victims of rape and men are always perpetrators. And it doesn't help anyone, men or women, as well as creating a climate of fear for women, and demonizing men rather than showing that men also are victims of rape and much more than realized. It's unexpected and novel, not widely acknowledged.

"If feminists were interested in harm reduction, they would not be promoting this message that men are a monolithic perpetrator class and women and a monolithic victim class. They would actually be promoting the idea that women are, as a class, capable of having power over men. Of harming men, of harming other women, of harming children. Women are capable of that, because they are individuals, they have agency (ability to take control of their lives) and are fully realized human beings."

From the statistics for domestic violence and rape: "43% of college men and high school youth report being sexually assaulted or raped. 95% by women. 51% of college men report being sexually assaulted or raped since the age of 16." And I think the percentage of women perpetrators given was 50%, half.

Not only that, but since it's not wanted to be admitted that women are perpetrators of sexual assault, this throws women victims of women "under the bus," because the dirty little secret of women being sexual assault perpetrators is being hidden or ignored.

I have anecdotal evidence of my own. I remember reading a book - it was 20 years ago, maybe more - where this guy who was about 18 or 19 was in bed when this 15-year-old piece of jail bait decided to strip and get in bed with him, then told him she wanted to have sex with him and if he wouldn't she'd go claiming he did or claiming he raped her (or maybe both, I'm not sure.) Well, he decided not to accede to blackmail but decided to pull her out of his bed, toss her her clothes and put her out, scared to death she might decide to report him.

I spoke about this in part from my own blog, on the cultural consideration of a teenager or someone under the age of consent having sex with someone old enough to be their parent, as long as the old one is female and the young one is male it can't be considered misconduct but when it's a girl with an older guy it's automatically a pervert taking advantage (or just plane rape) of some innocent. Consider the movie Summer of 42, where a woman, probably 20 years older, decides to let a young man have his first time with her, it's a touching "coming of age" story. Vladimir Nabokov's Lolita is considered the story of a man, probably 20 years older, who takes advantage of an unsuspecting innocent female victim.

"It's no use, he sees her / He starts to shake and cough / Just like the old man in / That book by Nabakov." - The Police, Don't Stand So Close to Me

Or let's take an example here and now. I live in Maryland where, as it is in 29 other states, all Canadian provinces and the District of Columbia, the age of consent is 16. If I go trolling junior high and high schools for young girls who aren't well liked, and I find some cute 16-year old and I sweet talk her into letting me take her to a motel room (here in Maryland) for a weekend of illicit debauchery, and her mother finds out, when she calls the police, all they'll tell her is that since her daughter consented, there's nothing they can do since it isn't illegal. However, if we went to a motel in Virginia, I would be looking at serious prison time. Yet let's reverse this, and it was a 54-year-old woman who took a 16-year-old boy to a motel, first his parents wouldn't be calling the cops, and second, it is extremely unlikely she would be prosecuted even where it is illegal.

Think about your own attitudes. Be honest with yourself, if you hear about some 12-16-year-old boy who was having sex with a female teacher who is old enough to be his mom, most of us are probably thinking "he got lucky," and "why weren't the teachers in my school like that?" But turn it around, and it's a 12-16-year-old girl and a male teacher old enough to be his dad, and we see it as probably rape and at least statutory rape.

I'm also going to ask the question as to whether it is. In a realistic world where people aren't tetched-in-the-head about and puritan to the point of being psychotic over sex, we'd realize that kids do have sex with each other, 5,000 years of trying to encourage abstinence hasn't worked. The high rate of teen pregnancy is clear evidence that because we don't drill it into their heads to always use contraception they are failing to do so. But, of course, start mentioning contraception and you then raise the dirty little secret everyone tries to hide, that if the kids weren't ignorant of contraception once they discovered how much fun sex is they'd probably be "fucking like minks," as Michael Douglas says in Basic Instinct. As it is, they are having sex, they're sneaking around and probably not using proper contraception.

Then there's the horror of sexually transmitted infections and sexually transmitted diseases. Back when I was a horny teenager, circa 1976, all we had were medium serious diseases like gonorrhea and syphilis, easily treatable and not very serious if you had it taken care of. Now many of these are incurable, and while HIV is no longer a death sentence it does mean having to take serious medication for the rest of your life, a huge tragedy.

A teenybopper and someone my age having sex isn't always victimization of the young person and may simply be harmless fun on both sides, but sometimes it is exploitation. You can have underage kids fully able to understand what sex means and to accept the consequences, even if it's with someone much older. And there can be 21, 22 year old people who are immature and might not show any evidence they're not ready to be having sex. The law now, at least, takes this into account when two young people are having sex and one or both of them is below the age of consent, by either making it legal if they're close in age, or reducing the penalty if it's still a crime.

So the law basically makes someone above 30 having sex with most teenyboppers illegal because too often it can be exploitation of the younger person. Whether that simply means a lot of sex where it isn't is basically hidden to keep it from being noticed, or whether it helps to catch predators is an open question. It clouds up the edge cases where it does involve two people who understand what they are doing and care about each other, even if one of them is much older than the other.

But that's still an edge case, and the fact remains that, based upon the statistics, a lot of female on male rape, sexual assault and other violence is being ignored because it's not "politically correct" to admit that in more than 1/2 of the cases the perpetrator is female and the victim is male.

When any form of sexual victimization is trivialized because it is undesirable to admit that the perpetrators can be and are women, it creates a disservice to everyone. It ignores female victims and makes male victims less likely to report what happened to them.
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