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Let's see what Reddit says by Mysterio 06/03/2015, 8:20am PDT
Jupiter_Ginger wrote:

But for others—smaller, more personal games along the lines of Proteus, Gone Home, and Papo & Yo or even bigger budget experiences like Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes and Portal—two hours can basically be the entire thing. So, in theory, someone could buy one of those games, play it to completion (or close enough), and then get a refund.


Um. Maybe that means they should focus on making better games? If your game is only entertaining for two hours or so and then I never want to play it again, maybe the problem is the game.


Yeah, Portal clearly isn't a good enough game. Equating game quality with length is also now a thing because anti-GG hates it.


caz_ wrote:

The argument that it hurts developers doesn't make any sense. There are two main reasons people pay for games. One is that they want to do the right thing and support work they enjoy by paying for it, and the other is that distribution services like steam are less of a hassle than pirating the game.

So, considering that lodging a claim for a refund is, itself, a bit of a hassle, and goes against the idea of supporting the devs, I can't imagine anyone doing that who wouldn't just pirate it anyway.


I love that pirating ALL games is just as easy as using Steam now. There's also apparently just two reasons people play for games and if you ignore the fact that people are going to use Steam as a two-hour Gamefly, everything is cool.


H_R_Pumpndump wrote:



I don't care whether your game is a 40-hour AAA blockbuster or a 5-minute indie point-and-click Flash game; if I don't want to play it or replay it for at least 2 hours, I deserve a refund, because your game sucks.


Literally how gamers think these days. Deserve. H R Pumndump deserves things.


kafaldsbylur wrote:


A good game should make me want to keep it in my library, no matter how long or short it is. If after 1h59 of gameplay, I want to get a refund, that's on the game regardless of whether I completed it or whether I'm still in the tutorial.

If players want to get refunds on your games, the solution is to make better games, not scam people out of their money.


It's never the player's fault if he wants a refund at the two hour mark, it's always the game. But you have to make BETTER games, but it's also 100% your fault if a piece of shit realizes that they spent all their rent money that month and need refunds.

Here ya go. Most entitled people in human history rubbing their hands about how gleefully they are going to enforce a shareware model on the people making the entertainment they so vapidly consume.










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Valve offering refunds on games played less than 2 hours by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/02/2015, 12:24pm PDT NEW
    If I totalled up the cash spent on games with less than 2 hours in my Steam libr NT by ary, I would never stop crying. 06/02/2015, 6:53pm PDT NEW
        Let's see what Reddit says by Mysterio 06/03/2015, 8:20am PDT NEW
            Eh I think they'll take away the refund ability from anyone who abuses it. by Worm 06/03/2015, 10:21am PDT NEW
                It would be nice if Valve said this. by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/03/2015, 11:23am PDT NEW
                    They did! by Worm 06/03/2015, 1:21pm PDT NEW
            Also Portal 2 isn't a 2 hour game and Ground Zeroes is a 2 hours if you ignore by Worm 06/03/2015, 1:26pm PDT NEW
    So you can finish a game in offline mode and return it? by Oom Shnibble 06/03/2015, 8:27am PDT NEW
        Probably by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/03/2015, 9:06am PDT NEW
            Oh shit! I forgot retrobooster! by MM 06/03/2015, 5:16pm PDT NEW
            Yeah, I don't get why it's 2 hours rather than 30 minutes or whatever. by blackwater 06/16/2015, 1:11am PDT NEW
    What about games like Evil Dead II? It was only 84 minutes, including credits! by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 06/03/2015, 5:06pm PDT NEW
        Welcome back. by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/03/2015, 5:26pm PDT NEW
            Jonsey, it was a forged post. It wasn't me. NT by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 06/13/2015, 6:03pm PDT NEW
                Bummer. "Cybergunk" was a revelation. NT by pinback 06/15/2015, 4:48am PDT NEW
                Yeah. The sentence structure is all wrong. It's a fugazi. NT by TDARCOS appreciation society 06/16/2015, 12:55am PDT NEW
    Re: Valve offering refunds on games played less than 2 hours by Mysterio Lollerson 06/05/2015, 3:33pm PDT NEW
 
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