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Still holds up a month later by fabio 12/01/2015, 2:28am PST
Still have no problem getting people in games so the community isn't dead.

I have to give the melee system more credit because you're not really playing the game until you're playing on Nightmare (next to hardest) difficulty. At that level, you're extremely careful about timing your swings, darting forward and back, and rationing your limited block/shove stamina. Weapons like shields and 2 handed crowd-clearers really start showing their use.

Like L4D, the hardest difficulty (Cataclysm) is a little too hard (one-quarter of your health per common enemy hit) and I wish there was something between Nightmare and Cataclysm. Cataclysm is mostly about slooooowly advancing to pull small chunks of aggro at a time like it was a damn MMO. There's only 2 maps I've ever seen beaten on Cataclysm and one of them is done by exploiting enemy AI spawning/aggro (climb halfway up a ladder where no enemies can reach you and they'll stay there with no new spawns until killed). The exploit is boring as fuck but it's the only Cataclysm map 90% of people will play.

Which is a shame because loot is highly overrated. An orange exotic weapon is hardly any better than a blue rare. It has one extra trait and most traits are useless so it doesn't matter. No need to grind, just have fun with the damn game.

Way more narrow escapes and victories than L4D ever had. The AI special enemies are way deadlier than their L4D equivalents. If they ever let humans control them in a vs mode I doubt any group would make it halfway. Special nod to rat ogre fights being way more tactical and engaging than L4D tank fights (split second timing to spot a swipe which has to be blocked or a slam which has to be dodged, drawing aggro away from a party member who just had his block stamina drained in one hit), which in turn are way more engaging than the whole focus of Evolve, which Turtle Rock should be ashamed of.

Variety in the characters still a tad lacking even after becoming more familiar with them. The elf and witch hunter are almost the same while the soldier and dwarf ARE the same.

There's some free DLC coming out later this month!

Easily worth picking up if you enjoyed L4D.

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Anyone checking out Vermintide? by fabio 09/23/2015, 2:40pm PDT NEW
    I was supposed to be in the Beta but I kept missing the weekends. NT by Worm 09/23/2015, 3:41pm PDT NEW
    30 minute preview video by fabio 10/18/2015, 2:34am PDT NEW
        fuck it, I ordered it NT by fabio 10/20/2015, 8:05pm PDT NEW
            Its out. Let's go fuckers. NT by fabio 10/23/2015, 1:07pm PDT NEW
    ElKoba is in by fabio 10/24/2015, 12:24am PDT NEW
        Re: ElKoba is in by fabio 10/24/2015, 12:25am PDT NEW
    Still holds up a month later by fabio 12/01/2015, 2:28am PST NEW
 
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