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Daily Kos moderator sets March 15th moratorium for criticising Hillary. Ha ha! by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/04/2016, 10:01pm PST
ja wrote:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/03/04/1495813/-March-15-and-Daily-Kos-transition-to-General-Election-footing

So here’s what happens on March 15:

I will no longer tolerate malicious attacks on our presumptive presidential nominee or our presidential efforts. What does that mean? 

  • No attacks on Hillary Clinton using right-wing tropes of sources. She’s had 30 years of bullshit flung at her from the Right, there’s no need to have Daily Kos give them an assist. 

     

  • Constructive criticism from the Left is allowed. There’s a difference between constructive and destructive criticism. Do I need to spell it out? It’s the difference between “We need to put pressure on her to do the right thing on TPP” versus “she’s a sell-out corporatist whore oligarch.” In general, if you’re resorting to cheap sloganeering like “oligarch” or “warmonger” or “neocon”, you might want to reframe your argument in a more substantive, issue-focused and constructive matter. Again, I’m not interested in furthering the Right’s hate-fueled media machine. If that’s what you want, might I suggest Free Republic? 

     

  • Saying you won’t vote, or will vote for Trump, or will vote for Jill Stein (or another Third Party) is not allowed. If that’s how you feel, but have other places in which you can be constructive on the site, then keep your presidential feelings to yourself. Those of us who care about our country and it’s future are focused on victory. If you aren’t, then it’s a big internet, I suggest you find more hospitable grounds for your huffing, puffing, and stomping of feet. 

     

  • If you are going to be pessimistic, you better support it. There’s a difference between “Clinton can’t beat Trump” and “Clinton can’t beat Trump in Alabama”. There is also a difference between the blanket “Clinton can’t beat Trump” and “Looking at the polling, I’m worried that Clinton is falling behind Trump because X, Y, and Z”. Obviously, that also applies to races and issues down the ballot, not just the presidential. If you are going to be a Debbie-Downer, you better have a damn good reason to justify your pessimism. Rank, unsupported pessimism is anathema to our data-driven, reality based culture. 

     

  • No re-litigating the primary. I don’t give a shit what Clinton or Sanders said in the primary anymore. It’s over. Move on. Again, if it’s not over on March 15 because Sanders has narrowed his delegate deficit, then this doesn’t apply. But once this primary is over, it’s over. Anyone who is interested in keeping our primary divisions open and festering can go do that somewhere else (and be as relevant as the 2008-vintage PUMAs were). 

     

  • Battle “the establishment” where it makes sense. So you are angry at the establishment? Go stick it to the man in downballot races where there good anti-establishment candidates on the ballot, like the Maryland Senate race and Donna Edwards. To be clear, Daily Kos will depart from recent practice by endorsing all Senate candidates that want our help, because the Supreme Court is just that important. But you, as individuals, have choices, and you can direct your energy and money to those candidates who are more closely aligned with your values. And we will battle the establishment together on things like the primary calendar and superdelegates. But we pick our battles, and in many places, the establishment will be our allies. Or to paraphrase some dumbfuck, we go to election season with the party we have, not the one we wish we had.

     

  • We are really in this together. I know there have been rough fights, and some community members have been terrible to each other. But consider this a sorts of amnesty period. Let bygones be bygones. Don’t bring in comments from past battles into new ones. Wipe the slate clean, and let’s move forward together as allies, not enemies or, at worst, frenemies. 


  • Those liberals sure do like free speech, yup they do!


    I know that by saying this I come off like a huge asshole, but nobody on the fucking Internet can moderate a website. I can't think of a single thing that people do worse, on a pound for pound basis, than simply letting adults talk to each other without interference.

    Glad you decided to stick around here, by the way.


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    Daily Kos moderator sets March 15th moratorium for criticising Hillary. Ha ha! by ja 03/04/2016, 6:53pm PST NEW
        Daily Kos moderator sets March 15th moratorium for criticising Hillary. Ha ha! by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/04/2016, 10:01pm PST NEW
            Don't Speak Ill of Supreme Leader by TWTR +0.05 03/04/2016, 10:33pm PST NEW
            Umm... by Mischief Maker 03/05/2016, 6:40am PST NEW
                People would have to read josh posts first for that experiment to work NT by Lost in Translation 03/05/2016, 9:51am PST NEW
        Define "compliance" by Mischief Maker 03/18/2016, 10:40am PDT NEW
            Re: Define "compliance" by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/18/2016, 10:47am PDT NEW
                Update: by Mischief Maker 03/18/2016, 9:32pm PDT NEW
            This is great. I love the part where he defends it by saying by blackwater 03/18/2016, 3:52pm PDT NEW
     
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