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Balance of Power
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by Ray of Light 03/18/2016, 7:15pm PDT |
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First, Politifact is full of shit. It's owned by a newspaper that has endorsed a Democrat for the last century.
And the Economist just named a Trump presidency as dangerous to the global economy as jihadi terrorism. Its hitpiece on him is standard-issue progressive handwringing:
He would deport all 11m immigrants currently thought to be in America illegally. Apart from the misery this would cause, it would also cost $285 billion, by one estimate—roughly $900 in new taxes for every man, woman and child left in Mr Trump’s America. This is necessary, he argues, because Mexican illegal immigrants are “bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists.” Note the bizarre phrasing of "illegal immigrants" (in credit to the Economist, most media refuse to even use the I-word) and the clear implication ("$900 in new taxes") that the cost of keeping illegal immigrants is zero.
“The money [China] took out of the United States is the greatest theft in the history of our country.” He is referring to the fact that Americans sometimes buy Chinese products. Yeah I think I heard about that.
Mr Trump is far more dangerous than Pitchfork Pat, for two reasons. First, as a billionaire, he will not run out of money to finance his campaign. Prior to this election, everyone agreed that big donor political influence was toxic to a nation. Now I see this kind of argument all the time, that no, it's actually better to have a politician owned by AIPAC because you'll know what they'll do (i.e., shred the constitution and accumulate national debt).
Second, he faces so many Republican opponents that he could grab the nomination with only a modest plurality of the vote. He's dangerous because... he may get elected. Anyway, I didn't intend this to be a post about how the Economist is run by progressive shills.
Blackwater forgot the most signifcant source of funding that Trump doesn't take: Israel. Actual quote spoken to actual Jews: "I don’t want your money, therefore you’re probably not gonna support me."
Insufficient fealty to Israel is both a capital crime in politics (you may recall one of the earliest GOP debates where,when asked how they will make America better, the field's response was curiously Israel-focused) and, in many ways, the keystone of Trump's campaign. It allows America to stop propping up Israel's source of cheap oil (you'll never guess who that is), to make nice with Russia, to stop nation-building in the middle east. When Trump talks about a richer country from lower taxes, he's including the expected savings from not spending trillions to enhance Israel's position.
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Jesus what a nailbiter in MI right now... by MM 03/08/2016, 7:22pm PST
Sanders has won Michigan, according to A.P. by MM 03/08/2016, 8:38pm PST
This is it, our Berning Point. NT by Worm 03/08/2016, 9:07pm PST
Berniing Man NT by COPYRIGHTED 03/09/2016, 7:44pm PST
I would follow general manboobs to the ends of the earth! NT by laudablepuss 03/09/2016, 2:04pm PST
Re: Jesus what a nailbiter in MI right now... by Ray of Light 03/16/2016, 1:53am PDT
You're so smart, Ray NT by laudablepuss 03/16/2016, 8:34am PDT
hey, MM, don't you owe it to yourself to be better than this by now? by Ray of Light 03/16/2016, 10:43am PDT
Big fat citation needed here by laudablepuss 03/16/2016, 11:47am PDT
the citation was in the paragraph you linked to :( by Ray of Light 03/17/2016, 11:33pm PDT
Is the 'self-funded' thing a joke? by Worm 03/18/2016, 8:18am PDT
It's mostly true, although not really relevant by blackwater 03/18/2016, 3:42pm PDT
Re: It's mostly true, although not really relevant by Worm 03/18/2016, 4:34pm PDT
Re: It's mostly true, although not really relevant by Ray of Light 03/18/2016, 7:15pm PDT
Whether politifact is full of shit or not is kind of beside the point. by Worm 03/19/2016, 12:05pm PDT
Re: Whether politifact is full of shit or not is kind of beside the point. by Ray of Light 03/20/2016, 12:04am PDT
I love how you're putting words in the mouth of a guy that defaults on his loans by Welcome to Omsk 03/20/2016, 7:01am PDT
Re: I love how you're putting words in the mouth of a guy that defaults by Ray of Light 03/20/2016, 11:43am PDT
You put words in everyone's mouth, apparently. by Welcome to Omsk 03/20/2016, 7:52pm PDT
Re: You put words in everyone's mouth, apparently. by Ray of Light 03/20/2016, 9:04pm PDT
Re: You put words in everyone's mouth, apparently. by Kenny Mayne 03/20/2016, 9:48pm PDT
He held some stupid opinions, but he's not dumb enough to vote Trump. NT by Souffle of Pain 03/20/2016, 10:15pm PDT
Re: You put words in everyone's mouth, apparently. by Ray of Light 03/20/2016, 10:32pm PDT
Time to go to knowyourmeme to figure out why this is funny NT by Worm 03/21/2016, 5:20am PDT
I figured it out, a guy who would use his fat mouth to take Trump to completion by Worm 03/21/2016, 5:26am PDT
Re: You put words in everyone's mouth, apparently. by Kenny Mayne 03/21/2016, 6:11am PDT
I love how he picked someone from a place that stands to lose from a Trump win NT by Welcome to Omsk 03/21/2016, 10:33pm PDT
Re: Whether politifact is full of shit or not is kind of beside the point. by Worm 03/20/2016, 10:08am PDT
I thought Ray was Canadian. NT by Mysterio Lollerson 03/20/2016, 11:58am PDT
Re: Whether politifact is full of shit or not is kind of beside the point. by Ray of Light 03/20/2016, 11:58am PDT
Wait is this just Fortinbras on a VPN? NT by Worm 03/20/2016, 12:47pm PDT
It's clearly not Ray, unlike this faggot by Make eTalk Daily Again 03/20/2016, 1:16pm PDT
When your political beliefs amount to Kill Whitey, its not hard to be condescend NT by ing 03/20/2016, 1:18pm PDT
Every forum eventually has people making fun of it elsewhere. by Christopher Nolan 03/20/2016, 1:40pm PDT
ha ha ha, it's one of those Bo-new fucks by idiots 03/20/2016, 3:43pm PDT
Fucking Fortinbras. NT by Kenny Mayne 03/20/2016, 3:06pm PDT
Wow, this thread became a lot of fun. by blackwater 03/21/2016, 11:17pm PDT
Re: the citation was in the paragraph you linked to :( by laudablepuss 03/18/2016, 9:08am PDT
Well isn't Ray Canadian or something? by Worm 03/18/2016, 4:15pm PDT
Trump will help my people see the ridiculousness of our own PM, Derek Zoolander NT by Ray of Light 03/18/2016, 6:21pm PDT
Don't blame me, I voted for Ben Mulroney. NT by Make eTalk Daily Again 03/18/2016, 11:11pm PDT
I've been saying this for a while. by Souffle of Pain 03/20/2016, 1:58pm PDT
You should mean Trump is . . . NT by "Parents and siblings funded" 03/18/2016, 12:21pm PDT
Why would you be jealous of a party in shambles at the federal level? by skip 03/16/2016, 7:34am PDT
Oops! by post election 04/17/2017, 6:41am PDT
Hahahahaah by AHHHHAhahahahaah 03/23/2016, 2:22pm PDT
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