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Re: Except a lot of people made it to the white house without being caked in mud by Vested Id 10/11/2016, 8:05pm PDT
blackwater wrote:

For example, Barack Obama didn't enrich himself in office, either during or before his presidency. John McCain didn't use politics to make himself rich-- he even sponsored a campaign finance bill (which failed to accomplish its aims, and was later struck down by the court, but at least he tried.) McCain and Romney had careers outside politics that didn't involve trading influence for favors.


Romney was the son of a governor, McCain's dad and granddad were four-star admirals, Reagan was a well-known public figure, the Bushes are a literal dynasty (Billy fucking Bush is a Bush, did you know that?). Reagan aside, all old money and well-connected, that's my point. Bill and Hill both were each raised by a homemaker and a small businessman. The spin is so pervasive with the Clintons that people compare their wary handling of White House help staff with the more graceful manner of George and Laura, and decide this is evidence that the Clintons are paranoid and untrustworthy instead of the Bushes being out-of-touch bluebloods.

Obama is an outlier who benefitted from extreme public regret over the Bush years. Not to mention having that whole Chicago machine at his back.

I also find it amusing that people are so scared of how "authoritarian" Trump is, when Hillary is the same way.


But she merely defames memes and grandly declares the Israel BDS movement (sponsored by the Presbyterian Church) an anti-Semitic plot that must be stopped. I'm not crazy about her, but it's hard not to root a bit for her when her opponents call her a murderer like they're mentally deranged.
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Gotta hand it to the Clinton campaign... by Mischief Maker 10/09/2016, 5:06pm PDT NEW
    This is why everyone hates Hillary, by the way by Mysterio Lollerson 10/09/2016, 6:17pm PDT NEW
        I hope she wraps this up soon so I can go back to openly hating her! by Mischief Maker 10/09/2016, 6:53pm PDT NEW
            Re: I hope she wraps this up soon so I can go back to openly hating her! by Mysterio Lollerson 10/09/2016, 7:37pm PDT NEW
        I was having a conversation with a friend about why I hated Hillary. by blackwater 10/11/2016, 10:30am PDT NEW
            You realize the Supreme Stupid Court now officially says that's not corruption NT by laudablepuss 10/11/2016, 3:03pm PDT NEW
                You're stupid and so is Colin Kaepernick your pet negro NT by Da Notorious RBG 10/11/2016, 3:07pm PDT NEW
                    Hahaha NT by laudablepuss 10/11/2016, 3:41pm PDT NEW
            Isn't there an alternate narrative about two people from nowhere chasing their by Vested Id 10/11/2016, 4:17pm PDT NEW
                That still doesn't excuse her reaping the rewards of being a woman. by Plucking them like fruit from her v 10/11/2016, 4:50pm PDT NEW
                Except a lot of people made it to the white house without being caked in mud by blackwater 10/11/2016, 7:26pm PDT NEW
                    Hello! Heard of me? I went in with the Bamster on a sweet real estate deal NT by Tony Rezko 10/11/2016, 7:35pm PDT NEW
                        Honestly Rezko seems like someone every politican in Chicago knew. by blackwater 10/11/2016, 9:57pm PDT NEW
                            That's because Snopes destroyed a strawman by Tony Rezko 10/12/2016, 5:56pm PDT NEW
                    Re: Except a lot of people made it to the white house without being caked in mud by Mischief Maker 10/11/2016, 7:39pm PDT NEW
                        The Trump university thing isn't really that bad. by blackwater 10/11/2016, 10:37pm PDT NEW
                            Accreditation is just the tip of the fraud Iceberg with Trump U. by Mischief Maker 10/12/2016, 7:48am PDT NEW
                                And yet, it's still a better value than a lot of liberal arts degrees. by dr. no 10/12/2016, 2:16pm PDT NEW
                            Is it your contention that the people who felt ripped off by Trump U by laudablepuss 10/12/2016, 9:07am PDT NEW
                    Re: Except a lot of people made it to the white house without being caked in mud by Vested Id 10/11/2016, 8:05pm PDT NEW
                        Honestly, I prefer a blueblood to a grifter that uses the government as an ATM by blackwater 10/11/2016, 10:54pm PDT NEW
    It's a mad rush for people to pretend they care about rape victims. NT by Worm 10/09/2016, 8:54pm PDT NEW
    I presume you're joking since that's totally insane NT by laudablepuss 10/10/2016, 11:55pm PDT NEW
        Yeah there needs to be some cosby level event here, all they got is the tape. by Worm 10/11/2016, 10:47am PDT NEW
            They've got at least two women so far! by Mischief Maker 10/11/2016, 11:37am PDT NEW
                Re: They've got at least two women so far! by laudablepuss 10/11/2016, 11:46am PDT NEW
            Re: Yeah there needs to be some cosby level event here, all they got is the t by laudablepuss 10/11/2016, 11:42am PDT NEW
 
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