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Because Hillary was the better candidate and more people wanted her by truth 12/21/2016, 5:07pm PST
Summary of how petulant Bernie supporters lost the election, not the people's preference for Trump

It doesn't even mention the massive potential of dirt on Bernie's finances, the rumored debts, his hidden tax records, his wife collecting a salary from the campaign, or the college she sunk by taking out a reckless loan. I wonder if Bernie would favor the same aggressive investigation against her for the same kind of recklessness the wall street bankers committed?

The only thing the article gets wrong is the total number of votes compared to the 2012 election, but the point is still true if you look at the percentages.


Obama Romney Other/none
51.1% 47.2% 1.7%

Hillary Trump Other/none
48.0% 46.0% 6%


How many Republicans were threatening to vote for Hillary vs the Bern victim Democrats threatening (and claiming to) vote for Trump?

Why did Hillary lose? Bern victims, the lies they spread, and their self fulfilling prophecy.

Which leads back to the main point: Awash in false conspiracy theories and petulant immaturity, liberals put Trump in the White House. Trump won slightly fewer votes than Romney did in 2012—60.5 million compared with 60.9 million. On the other hand, almost 5 million Obama voters either stayed home or cast their votes for someone else. More than twice as many millennials—a group heavily invested in the “Sanders was cheated out of the nomination” fantasy—voted third-party. The laughably unqualified Jill Stein of the Green Party got 1.3 million votes; those voters almost certainly opposed Trump; if just the Stein voters in Michigan had cast their ballot for Clinton, she probably would have won the state. And there is no telling how many disaffected Sanders voters cast their ballot for Trump.

Of course, there will still be those voters who snarl, “She didn’t earn my vote,” as if somehow their narcissism should override all other considerations in the election. That, however, is not what an election is about. Voters are charged with choosing the best person to lead the country, not the one who appeals the most to their egos.

If you voted for Trump because you supported him, congratulations on your candidate’s victory. But if you didn’t vote for the only person who could defeat him and are now protesting a Trump presidency, may I suggest you shut up and go home. Adults now need to start fixing the damage you have done.
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Can someone explain to an outsider why Bernie never got the Dem nomination by Oom Shnibble 12/21/2016, 4:54am PST NEW
    Because he's not a Democrat. NT by Fullofkittens 12/21/2016, 6:24am PST NEW
    Four reasons primarily: by Mischief Maker 12/21/2016, 9:12am PST NEW
        Whoops! I mean five. NT by Mischief Maker 12/21/2016, 9:12am PST NEW
        Open primaries can lead to their own fuckery by Vested Id 12/21/2016, 10:51am PST NEW
            Large scale organized corruption like that is MUCH harder. I'd take that trade. NT by Mischief Maker 12/21/2016, 11:00am PST NEW
    All of my elite hackers. by Putin. 12/21/2016, 2:40pm PST NEW
        Who ever said the Russians were helping Hillary??? by MM 12/21/2016, 3:03pm PST NEW
            A logical conclusion. by Putin' things into perspective. 12/21/2016, 4:47pm PST NEW
                Re: A logical conclusion. by I know nothing about Pokemon 12/21/2016, 6:02pm PST NEW
                    Re: Re: A logical conclusion. by Putin' things into perspective. 12/21/2016, 6:43pm PST NEW
                    Didn't he appoint a few already NT by Brown Sonja and Kike&Dyke 12/21/2016, 9:49pm PST NEW
                        Sotomayor is a shit, Kagan is very well respected by Mysterio 12/22/2016, 5:58pm PST NEW
                Trump fans calling Hillary Clinton "a complete monster" is ironic and laughable NT by "I'm not a Trump fan" they then say 12/24/2016, 5:26pm PST NEW
                    Quarter century of character assasination. Even Bullshit leaves a smell. NT by MM 12/24/2016, 7:11pm PST NEW
                        Shame so often it was her pulling the trigger NT by Do I need to link to a montage 12/24/2016, 8:18pm PST NEW
                            Nah. I'm done defending her. I'll concede this one to you. Happy Holidays! NT by Mischief Maker 12/25/2016, 4:08am PST NEW
                        Especially when it is coming out my own mouth. NT by Crooked Hillary. 12/25/2016, 1:09am PST NEW
                            Congrats not figuring out the comment above you said the exact same thing NT by hours ago 12/25/2016, 1:34am PST NEW
                                I liked my version better. NT by Crooked Hillary. 12/25/2016, 1:40am PST NEW
                    I can't stop laughing either. by Crooked Hillary. 12/25/2016, 1:03am PST NEW
    Because Hillary was the better candidate and more people wanted her by truth 12/21/2016, 5:07pm PST NEW
        You have a strange definition of "better." by Mischief Maker 12/21/2016, 6:00pm PST NEW
        Again my biggest regret is playing ball with you losers and voting Hillary. NT by Worm 12/21/2016, 8:06pm PST NEW
        skip, Eichenwald sucks by Vested Id 12/22/2016, 4:02pm PST NEW
            tbc he does suffer from seizures, *yes and* by Vested Id 12/22/2016, 4:23pm PST NEW
        Also, if the DNC is "an impotent organization with very little power..." by Mischief Maker 12/25/2016, 4:33am PST NEW
    Interesting article about Bernie campaigners being ignored by HRC in the general by Mischief Maker 12/22/2016, 10:42pm PST NEW
        Re: Interesting article about Bernie campaigners being ignored by HRC in the by John Gulp 12/22/2016, 11:26pm PST NEW
            This was my frustration this campaign post-primary. by Mischief Maker 12/23/2016, 8:44pm PST NEW
                Fuck Flint. None of you neoliberal Dems should be allowed to utter that name NT by You didn't care until it made news 12/24/2016, 10:12am PST NEW
                    Now I'm a neoliberal. See what I mean? NT by Mischief Maker 12/24/2016, 10:37am PST NEW
                        neoliberal - adjective - Someone who says "Yeah, Hillary is moneyed and corrupt NT by BUT TRUMP!!!1111ONE" 12/24/2016, 10:45am PST NEW
                            By that definition Noam Chomsky is a neoliberal. by Mischief Maker 12/24/2016, 11:29am PST NEW
                    Roger and Me came out in 1989 NT by fabio 12/24/2016, 7:30pm PST NEW
                        Yeah but how much did you tweet about it in 1989? by Worm 12/24/2016, 8:21pm PST NEW
                Re: This was my frustration this campaign post-primary. by blackwater 12/25/2016, 1:47pm PST NEW
                    Re: This was my frustration this campaign post-primary. by Mischief Maker 12/25/2016, 2:54pm PST NEW
                        Who knows if anyone would have been able to influence her at all by Vested Id 12/25/2016, 4:14pm PST NEW
                            Well it's all academic at this point. Just explaining my thinking at the time. NT by Mischief Maker 12/25/2016, 4:24pm PST NEW
                        Hillary is far from being a blank slate. Trump is far from being Coolidge by Blackwater 12/25/2016, 10:17pm PST NEW
        It never ends. by Mischief Maker 04/21/2017, 6:19am PDT NEW
            #dachathoughts NT by by Bernie Sanders 04/21/2017, 7:54am PDT NEW
            How do you explain Hillary beating Bernie in most of the rust belt swing states? by bernie busters 04/21/2017, 11:35pm PDT NEW
 
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