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This was my frustration this campaign post-primary. by Mischief Maker 12/23/2016, 8:44pm PST
I believe that replacing or at least heavily pressuring the idiots who have the steering wheel of the DNC is a much more viable strategy than building a brand new political party from scratch. I thought a disgruntled vote for Stein was cutting your own throat. I went around actively getting into arguments with people about why it was necessary to hold your nose and vote for Hillary and getting called a sellout.

But the thing is, I hate the Democratic party MORE than any Bernie or Buster! Because I had firsthand knowledge of their preternatural ability to fuck up golden opportunities one after the other. But the fact that we don't have proportional representation in the US means we will always have only two viable parties and I'm enraged that they're the only sane option I have.

Here's what I think about Bernie "selling out" this campaign. Flint Michigan still has fucking lead in their drinking water. Asking them to let their children be poisoned for another 4 years to punish Hillary for her cheating and shock the squares out of their apathetic complacency was an unacceptable option. And there are a zillion other time-sensitive issues that would have been in a better place if Hillary got the job. Based on his record, I'm inclined to think Bernie's top priority is helping people, that's why he had a history of coauthoring bills with republicans and setting aside his own glory to let the republican put his name on it and increase the chances of it passing. People went berserk when Thom Hartmann called voting Jill Stein a white privilege luxury, but I'm inclined to agree with him. Bernie may have sold out a conceptual ideal, but he didn't sell out human beings in need.

But fuuuuuuuuuuck am I pissed at Hillary for elbowing herself into such a crucial position when she was vulnerable from three separate brewing scandals. If not Bernie, that all-important slot could have at least been occupied by Joe Biden. As an individual person I feel terrible for what she's gone through at the hands of Republicans since the early 90s. But when you take on that level of responsibility you are no longer entitled to the same level of forgiveness one would give to an ordinary citizen. And that goes triple for the KKKlown.

Chuck Schumer wrote:

For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin.


Fuck fuck fuck fuckitty fuck do I hate the Democratic Party!
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Can someone explain to an outsider why Bernie never got the Dem nomination by Oom Shnibble 12/21/2016, 4:54am PST NEW
    Because he's not a Democrat. NT by Fullofkittens 12/21/2016, 6:24am PST NEW
    Four reasons primarily: by Mischief Maker 12/21/2016, 9:12am PST NEW
        Whoops! I mean five. NT by Mischief Maker 12/21/2016, 9:12am PST NEW
        Open primaries can lead to their own fuckery by Vested Id 12/21/2016, 10:51am PST NEW
            Large scale organized corruption like that is MUCH harder. I'd take that trade. NT by Mischief Maker 12/21/2016, 11:00am PST NEW
    All of my elite hackers. by Putin. 12/21/2016, 2:40pm PST NEW
        Who ever said the Russians were helping Hillary??? by MM 12/21/2016, 3:03pm PST NEW
            A logical conclusion. by Putin' things into perspective. 12/21/2016, 4:47pm PST NEW
                Re: A logical conclusion. by I know nothing about Pokemon 12/21/2016, 6:02pm PST NEW
                    Re: Re: A logical conclusion. by Putin' things into perspective. 12/21/2016, 6:43pm PST NEW
                    Didn't he appoint a few already NT by Brown Sonja and Kike&Dyke 12/21/2016, 9:49pm PST NEW
                        Sotomayor is a shit, Kagan is very well respected by Mysterio 12/22/2016, 5:58pm PST NEW
                Trump fans calling Hillary Clinton "a complete monster" is ironic and laughable NT by "I'm not a Trump fan" they then say 12/24/2016, 5:26pm PST NEW
                    Quarter century of character assasination. Even Bullshit leaves a smell. NT by MM 12/24/2016, 7:11pm PST NEW
                        Shame so often it was her pulling the trigger NT by Do I need to link to a montage 12/24/2016, 8:18pm PST NEW
                            Nah. I'm done defending her. I'll concede this one to you. Happy Holidays! NT by Mischief Maker 12/25/2016, 4:08am PST NEW
                        Especially when it is coming out my own mouth. NT by Crooked Hillary. 12/25/2016, 1:09am PST NEW
                            Congrats not figuring out the comment above you said the exact same thing NT by hours ago 12/25/2016, 1:34am PST NEW
                                I liked my version better. NT by Crooked Hillary. 12/25/2016, 1:40am PST NEW
                    I can't stop laughing either. by Crooked Hillary. 12/25/2016, 1:03am PST NEW
    Because Hillary was the better candidate and more people wanted her by truth 12/21/2016, 5:07pm PST NEW
        You have a strange definition of "better." by Mischief Maker 12/21/2016, 6:00pm PST NEW
        Again my biggest regret is playing ball with you losers and voting Hillary. NT by Worm 12/21/2016, 8:06pm PST NEW
        skip, Eichenwald sucks by Vested Id 12/22/2016, 4:02pm PST NEW
            tbc he does suffer from seizures, *yes and* by Vested Id 12/22/2016, 4:23pm PST NEW
        Also, if the DNC is "an impotent organization with very little power..." by Mischief Maker 12/25/2016, 4:33am PST NEW
    Interesting article about Bernie campaigners being ignored by HRC in the general by Mischief Maker 12/22/2016, 10:42pm PST NEW
        Re: Interesting article about Bernie campaigners being ignored by HRC in the by John Gulp 12/22/2016, 11:26pm PST NEW
            This was my frustration this campaign post-primary. by Mischief Maker 12/23/2016, 8:44pm PST NEW
                Fuck Flint. None of you neoliberal Dems should be allowed to utter that name NT by You didn't care until it made news 12/24/2016, 10:12am PST NEW
                    Now I'm a neoliberal. See what I mean? NT by Mischief Maker 12/24/2016, 10:37am PST NEW
                        neoliberal - adjective - Someone who says "Yeah, Hillary is moneyed and corrupt NT by BUT TRUMP!!!1111ONE" 12/24/2016, 10:45am PST NEW
                            By that definition Noam Chomsky is a neoliberal. by Mischief Maker 12/24/2016, 11:29am PST NEW
                    Roger and Me came out in 1989 NT by fabio 12/24/2016, 7:30pm PST NEW
                        Yeah but how much did you tweet about it in 1989? by Worm 12/24/2016, 8:21pm PST NEW
                Re: This was my frustration this campaign post-primary. by blackwater 12/25/2016, 1:47pm PST NEW
                    Re: This was my frustration this campaign post-primary. by Mischief Maker 12/25/2016, 2:54pm PST NEW
                        Who knows if anyone would have been able to influence her at all by Vested Id 12/25/2016, 4:14pm PST NEW
                            Well it's all academic at this point. Just explaining my thinking at the time. NT by Mischief Maker 12/25/2016, 4:24pm PST NEW
                        Hillary is far from being a blank slate. Trump is far from being Coolidge by Blackwater 12/25/2016, 10:17pm PST NEW
        It never ends. by Mischief Maker 04/21/2017, 6:19am PDT NEW
            #dachathoughts NT by by Bernie Sanders 04/21/2017, 7:54am PDT NEW
            How do you explain Hillary beating Bernie in most of the rust belt swing states? by bernie busters 04/21/2017, 11:35pm PDT NEW
 
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