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You can't get snarky with MM since you failed to make an argument yourself. by Mysterio 02/05/2017, 11:29pm PST
we're so fucked wrote:

SURELY by now progressives have learned their lesson that purity tests and value signalling are pointless and self-defeating, and that the first steps to making things better is to actually vote to kick as many Republicans out of power as possible?

hahahaha, NOPE!


Feels.

we're so fucked wrote:

The problem isn't that Democrats simply don't have the numbers to enact sweeping progressive change, it's that existing Democrats aren't pure enough and with enough FEELS we can all wish upon a star to magically change everything!


Feels.

we're so fucked wrote:

Why do I shit on the protestors that I know for a fact didn't vote and never will?

Here's a posting from a professional protestor I know.


Setup for the feels.

we're so fucked wrote:

Why is it usually sheltered upper middle class young white girls who claims to know the true inner thoughts of MLK when it comes to violence?


Feels.

we're so fucked wrote:

During the campaign, one party advocated raising the national minimum wage to "only" $12/hour instead of $15, and seeing how the economy handled it before raising it to $15. The other party talked about doing away with the minimum wage altogether. The former were labeled corporate bootlickers and the "both parties are the same" narrative continued.


There's almost an argument in this. The problem with minimum wage is that it directs government force against employers to pay people more than what their market value is. If an individual wants to make $15 dollars an hour (who isn't), then they can improve themselves through education, training, working harder, etc to create more value out of their labor. Minimum wage laws takes away control from the employer and forces more productive members of society to pay more for goods and services as a result of covering the offset resulting from artificial wage minimums. It's also a little peculiar that "Fight for $15" advocates are usually open door immigration liberals. Open door immigration policies flood the labor market which ends up decreasing the value of lower class laborers which just ends up impoverishing them further.


we're so fucked wrote:

We're fucked and things are never going to get better. 44% of the country are too stupid to change their minds if Trump publicly murdered someone, and the ones who could tip the balance against him are too stupid to vote because LARPing is more fun for childern.



A tremendous amount of feels surrounding an inane logical fallacy you directed towards conservative voters. The statement you referenced was a figure of speech he used to describe his popularity. Even somehow taking the statement literally, the logical conclusion would be that its validity is based on the shortcomings of Hillary unless you are able to provide a mental deficit within conservative voters. This was the final part of your argument that falls apart under scrutiny: that 44% percent of Americans are stupid and that is how Trump got elected (along with democratic apathy). The United States, like all 1st world nations, has an IQ dispersion towards the higher end of the scale. The lower IQ members of American society tend to be people dependent on welfare programs since they are unable to obtain a comparable or greater amount of value on their own in the free market. These individuals tend to vote Democrat to ensure these benefits.


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Robert Reich, the face of why progressive change is doomed by we're so fucked 02/05/2017, 5:07pm PST NEW
    How badly do establishment Dems have to lose for you to say Clintonism failed? by Mischief Maker 02/05/2017, 8:50pm PST NEW
        How badly? Worse than the guy who lost the popular vote in the primary. by we're so fucked 02/05/2017, 9:19pm PST NEW
            It's like reading Time Cube stripped of humor and artistry NT by Worm 02/05/2017, 10:12pm PST NEW
            You can't get snarky with MM since you failed to make an argument yourself. by Mysterio 02/05/2017, 11:29pm PST NEW
                This post was not from Mysterio, I typed ":" in the Author field and this is NT by what occured. 02/05/2017, 11:31pm PST NEW
                Conservatives believe everyone should get what they deserve. by Mysterio 02/06/2017, 12:21am PST NEW
                    I guess since you don't have an argument, you had to focus on trivial mistakes. NT by Better luck next time. 02/06/2017, 12:39am PST NEW
                You must be an engineer. by blackwater 02/06/2017, 1:24pm PST NEW
                    Re: You must be an engineer. by Mysterio 02/06/2017, 2:19pm PST NEW
                        How do you expect people to provide evidence to a thread that is based entirely NT by on your emotional response? 02/06/2017, 2:49pm PST NEW
                        That's a good question by for some 02/07/2017, 12:44pm PST NEW
                            This was meant to be a reply to "How do you expect ..." by Mr Some 02/07/2017, 12:49pm PST NEW
                                I own no memes. NT by :( 02/07/2017, 12:53pm PST NEW
                                Why are all of these terrible insinuations being directed towards me? by All I did was argue for equality: 02/07/2017, 1:07pm PST NEW
                                    We sell the country, give everyone an equal share of the cash, then see who NT by rises to the top in Canada. 02/07/2017, 1:25pm PST NEW
                    You wrote a lot of claptrap, and not a lot of argument. by Also: 02/06/2017, 5:48pm PST NEW
                        We're flying too close to the sun on wings of not stepping over dead babies. by Stephen King 02/06/2017, 8:04pm PST NEW
                            You're right, IQ doesn't determine anything, it's not genetic, and your one NT by example proves it. Good job! 02/06/2017, 9:03pm PST NEW
                                Then how do you explain the direct correlation of higher IQ populations having NT by nicer, more developed Countries? 02/06/2017, 9:33pm PST NEW
                                    I'm not arguing with you, pal. I'm making hilarious jokes at your expense. by Stephen King 02/06/2017, 9:53pm PST NEW
                                        You are the joke. by Debate Moderator 02/07/2017, 7:55am PST NEW
                                            Everyone you disagree with is a Nazi. NT by Got it. 02/07/2017, 10:08am PST NEW
                                                You may be a Nazi, i dont know, but Stephen King is the insufferable feminist NT by Debate Moderator 02/07/2017, 10:48am PST NEW
                                                    Everyone you disagree with is a feminist. NT by Got it. 02/07/2017, 10:54am PST NEW
                                            Losers are eager to make friends because they don't have any. by Stephen King 02/07/2017, 10:54am PST NEW
                                                Maybe you and MM can swap jokes about how fat the losers kicking in your teeth NT by with jackboots are in the FEMA camp 02/07/2017, 11:19am PST NEW
                                                    I can tell I touched a nerve. I just don't want to picture the blubbery mess of NT by hair and pimples I touched it on. 02/07/2017, 12:08pm PST NEW
                                                        If only we had your edgy commentary in 2016, Hillary might be president by Look here for your future posts 02/07/2017, 2:53pm PST NEW
                                                            I love that even though I went bald in this, I still kept a youthful attitude. by Stephen King 02/07/2017, 3:51pm PST NEW
                                                    Leave me out of this shitty subthread. by MM 02/07/2017, 4:27pm PST NEW
                                                        If poor people don't deserve the consequences of their decisions, than who does? by Also: 02/07/2017, 5:00pm PST NEW
                                                            Jesus fucking Christ, this is why this place is such a shithouse by Look here for your future posts 02/07/2017, 5:14pm PST NEW
                                                                I'm not into the Bell Curve or eugenics. I argued for equality. What is the NT by ethical problem of equality? 02/08/2017, 5:39am PST NEW
                                                        Hey I finally agree with Mischief by we're so fucked 02/07/2017, 11:35pm PST NEW
                                                            on your second point though by we're so fucked 02/08/2017, 12:24am PST NEW
                                                                Great! We're back on track for a productive conversation. by Mischief Maker 02/08/2017, 5:00pm PST NEW
                                                                    I'm not so sure, I feel the "cupping invisible tits" demographic are going to NT by come out strong in 2020. 02/09/2017, 7:45am PST NEW
                                                                        Well hey, the "pussy grabbing" demographic carried 2016, so what do I know? NT by MM 02/09/2017, 7:32pm PST NEW
                                                            I never mentioned race, just IQ. That's because I'm not a racist, you might be NT by one though from your assumptions. 02/08/2017, 5:29am PST NEW
                                        Everyone you you disagree with who doesn't bring race into a debate is racist. NT by Got it. 02/07/2017, 10:09am PST NEW
                        Re: You wrote a lot of claptrap, and not a lot of argument. by Johnny Fivedicks 02/07/2017, 4:16pm PST NEW
                        I thought you were trolling because your name was colon, I can see now that by I was mistaken. Apologies! 02/10/2017, 12:40am PST NEW
            That's not what we're talking about here. by Mischief Maker 02/06/2017, 5:22am PST NEW
                Honest question about how this shit works. by Johnny Fivedicks 02/06/2017, 8:46am PST NEW
                    I don't see them doing that to Biden. by Mischief Maker 02/06/2017, 10:19am PST NEW
    You're absolutely right! The left is soooo totally fucked and there's nothing NT by you can do about it. Enjoy it! 02/07/2017, 10:12am PST NEW
 
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