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Re: How does this fit with your ire towards the by Mischief Maker 03/18/2017, 6:58am PDT
'Bernie or Bust' crowd? wrote:

Were they right? Or is it just easier to get a crowd pop when on opposition?

I know, I know, a lot of questions. I am curious!


These are two different situations.

The first situation was the end of the election where it should have been abundantly clear that Trump was going to be a nightmare and as nauseating as Hillary's campaign was, she wasn't going to harm people like Trump and his Nazi cabinet (yes, Nazi, look up Steve Bannon's favorite book "The Camp of the Saints"). I never pretended she was anything more than a lesser evil nor that I didn't have to hold my nose to vote for her. Now in retrospect it might have helped to have more people who were going to vote for Clinton actually say they were going to vote for Stein to force Hillary to move left and improve her campaign message, but she was such a weak candidate I feared at the time that it would only convince wavering undecideds to stay home or vote Trump. But on election day the time for bluffing was past and allowing an unstable monster like Trump into the White House to punish a craven old woman was unacceptable and I stand by that.

Now that we're living in the worst case scenario, there is nothing to be gained by supporting Clinton and her ship of fools. The nauseating campaign they were arrogantly certain would squash Trump failed spectacularly, as the polls threatened during the primary when I was on the side of the Bernie or Busters. The Democrats and Republicans have an effective cartel over political power in the United States and the only option that I can see for salvaging this country is to throw the Clinton Wing off the DNC boat. Fuck Hillary, fuck David Brock, fuck Tom Perez, and so on. These people lack the competence to obstruct Trump, much less unseat him. So in this situation I'm on the side of the Bernie or Busters again. Despite the Clinton Wing's crowing about "Purity Testing Bernie Bros" I understand why the Busters made their terrible mistake and I'm not going to let my prior disagreement get in the way of working with them to advance a goal.
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Bernie woulda won. by Mischief Maker 03/17/2017, 7:06am PDT NEW
    How does this fit with your ire towards the by 'Bernie or Bust' crowd? 03/17/2017, 9:37pm PDT NEW
        Re: How does this fit with your ire towards the by Mischief Maker 03/18/2017, 6:58am PDT NEW
            No win situation for Sanders by Boiney's Summah Home 03/18/2017, 12:14pm PDT NEW
                Re: No win situation for Sanders by Mischief Maker 03/18/2017, 2:39pm PDT NEW
                    Hypothetical outcome hangs on a number of requirements counter to reality NT by Again, condolences 03/18/2017, 7:05pm PDT NEW
                    Jesus, every day is November 8, 2016 for you, isn't it? by blackwater 03/20/2017, 10:33pm PDT NEW
                        Nope. November 8, 2018. Cuz the establishment Dems are already planning to lose. NT by Mischief Maker 03/21/2017, 7:19am PDT NEW
                        (distant look in his eyes, remembers Bernie supporter's arm exploding from VC) NT by Mischief Maker 03/21/2017, 8:30am PDT NEW
                        Haha "Democrat party" by Mysterio 03/21/2017, 4:23pm PDT NEW
            You know, you're pretty good at this. by The Happiness Engine 03/20/2017, 4:49pm PDT NEW
                It's "hetero-adverse anonymity" NT by Please 03/20/2017, 10:12pm PDT NEW
                Panhandling door to door by the face of the informed 03/21/2017, 1:38pm PDT NEW
                    You're right. I'm just a tinfoil hatted nutjob. by Mischief Maker 03/21/2017, 3:56pm PDT NEW
                        I like how MM stumbles around the barbs NT by must hurt at least a bit! 03/21/2017, 8:35pm PDT NEW
                            Not really. No. by MM 03/22/2017, 5:07am PDT NEW
                                The contortions, and ignoring of results, are definitely painful by Sorry, you're misrepresenting me 03/23/2017, 12:42am PDT NEW
                                    This is why I hate Mysterios. You all look the same. NT by Mischief Maker 03/23/2017, 4:59am PDT NEW
                            Nobody is "hurt" by anonyfags, no. NT by Kenny Mayne 03/22/2017, 7:34pm PDT NEW
 
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