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Re: Also why do you think American leftists are self-loathing? by Motherhead 06/07/2018, 5:05pm PDT
Mischief Maker wrote:

There's a transwoman who works at my local co-op grocery. I interact with her every couple weeks. And to the extent that it comes up, I use her preferred pronoun.

When I do, I don't go home with my head hanging low saying, "I can't believe I treated that trans person with common courtesy.

Must suck that virtue signalling your awesome empathy meets with indifference. Being a decent human person should be ideologically agnostic.

Mischief Maker wrote:

Get your talking points straight, leftists are smug because of our moral superiority!

I'll assume this is deadpan comedy and not some kind of autistic seizure.

Comrad Mischief Maker wrote:

As for the whole archaic definition of liberalism, you're putting the cart before the horse. I have policy goals I want enacted, those goals get labeled in the media as "liberal" but I don't care what you call them or me. You could call me a liberal, a leftist, a progressive, a social democrat, a Bernie Bro, or whatever as long as the policy I want gets enacted.

Okay. Why are you telling me this? Did you feel under attack? My comments were clearly more about the comedic/tragic state of social discourse with a bit about Peterson's central tenants than "I'M CALLING YOU OUT MISCHIEF MAKER." I'm glad you feel good about yourself by not being a cock to other people by being a cock to other, other people.

Mischief Maker wrote:

Finding some pedantic way to attach the label "liberal" to Jordan Peterson isn't going to make me suddenly embrace his regressive views on women's sexual freedom out of some tribal loyalty to the label.

My point was that his politics are center left and hardly shocking. I further went on to imply that Liberalism is pretty much central to the American experience from inception. His problem was with the enforceable legislation of speech, which does start getting into murky waters for (imaginary) nations with no first amendment. Hate speech laws tend to serve the establishment, not the individual. This offends my liberal sensibilities.
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In which I tear apart Jordan Peterson for intruding on my domain. by Mischief Maker 05/30/2018, 6:49pm PDT NEW
    With you on everything but this part: by Mysterio Lollerson 05/31/2018, 3:06pm PDT NEW
        Him being a charlatan and the media being scum isn't mutually exclusive, either. by Ator Maker 05/31/2018, 4:16pm PDT NEW
            I remember his transphobic freakout! by Mischief Maker 05/31/2018, 5:41pm PDT NEW
                ME TOO! by Roop 06/01/2018, 1:02am PDT NEW
                    Argumentum ad verecundiam by Mischief Shai-hulud 06/01/2018, 4:42am PDT NEW
                        The Koch brothers are PAID FOR by George Soros NT by Roop 06/06/2018, 7:23pm PDT NEW
                        Re: Argumentum ad verecundiam by Motherhead 06/07/2018, 9:55am PDT NEW
                    Man this is worse than being a penny arcade fan NT by Worm 06/02/2018, 12:20pm PDT NEW
                        now I drive a FUCKING HARVARD DEGREE NT by Worm 06/02/2018, 12:21pm PDT NEW
                            Are you afraid if he cures the postmodern condition this site will disappear? by Vested Id 06/04/2018, 7:12pm PDT NEW
                                He *taught?!!* WELL THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING! by Mischief Shai-hulud 06/05/2018, 6:39am PDT NEW
                                    Where are you getting this stuff? by Roop 06/05/2018, 8:28am PDT NEW
                                        Man you defend him a lot and he seems like a big fucking retard loser. by Worm 06/05/2018, 11:23am PDT NEW
                                            Seems to me we're getting another four years of Trump by Roop 06/05/2018, 11:48am PDT NEW
                                                If you just wrote 'methinks' your transformation into penny arcade user would be by complete Worm 06/05/2018, 2:39pm PDT NEW
                                                The (((left))) has normalized power and group dynamics. by Motherhead 06/07/2018, 10:02am PDT NEW
                                                    Can anyone give me the definition of "classic liberal?" NT by Mischief Maker 06/07/2018, 10:07am PDT NEW
                                                        Re: Can anyone give me the definition of "classic liberal?" by Motherhead 06/07/2018, 10:23am PDT NEW
                                                            He's Canadian. NT by Mischief Maker 06/07/2018, 10:42am PDT NEW
                                                                No such thing, and Locke and Hobbes were from Hermosa Beach, California. NT by Motherhead 06/07/2018, 10:53am PDT NEW
                                                            Also why do you think American leftists are self-loathing? by Mischief Maker 06/07/2018, 3:00pm PDT NEW
                                                                Re: Also why do you think American leftists are self-loathing? by Motherhead 06/07/2018, 5:05pm PDT NEW
                                                                    His "problem" was bullshit, a law prof explained that to him, he ignored facts. by Mischief Maker 06/07/2018, 5:46pm PDT NEW
                                                                        Oh, I won't defend his lunacy. by Motherhead 06/07/2018, 6:00pm PDT NEW
                                                                        What polite legislation! No penalties, just happy little suggestions NT by Roop 06/07/2018, 7:56pm PDT NEW
                                                                            Why don't you read the rebuttal by her that I linked? by Mischief Maker 06/07/2018, 8:12pm PDT NEW
                                                                                I did when it came out, and checked again. The article contradicts you by Roop 06/08/2018, 3:53am PDT NEW
                                                                                    How does it contradict me? NT by Mischief Maker 06/08/2018, 5:24am PDT NEW
                                        From the video in the OP at the time stamp I indicated. NT by STOP SKIMMING! 06/06/2018, 6:59pm PDT NEW
                                            Who linked it for you? I'll never believe you actually watch these videos NT by Roop 06/06/2018, 7:12pm PDT NEW
                                                ME TOO! by Mischief Shai-hulud 06/06/2018, 8:43pm PDT NEW
    What did he do, buy "mischiefmaker.com"? NT by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 06/02/2018, 9:46pm PDT NEW
 
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