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Re: Fuck Pro Tools and anything owned by Avid. (DAW recommendations!) by Fullofkittens 12/19/2018, 8:31pm PST
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:

Fullofkittens wrote:

Most hardware synths are going to do more than just play samples, though. Is there a particular sound you're hoping to make?


There are two goals, really. Thank you for asking.

Right now I will encounter songs without vocals on the Internet, usually they are electronica, dubstep, chillstep, whatever. I fall in love with the song and try to contact the creator to see if I can license it in Cyberganked. This has become expensive if you take what I have paid and think of it as a lump sum. It's not THAT bad when spread out over 6 years and counting.

I can recognize that some of it has very easy chord patterns. I can make songs like that, I believe. From a joyless, robotic sense, I can intellectually play chords, tweak the virtual instruments and make a three minute track of something that would be OK in the background of a game. If I can do that then the cost per minute of song goes to nothing. I don't think this process creates better songs than talented people who are doing it now, but sometimes it is OK to have background music.


This is the happy path use case for GarageBand. If all you want to do is make bespoke music that you don't have to pay for then GarageBand is the safe bet. You just click and drag some loops together: when it sounds acceptable, export to mp3. The loops are all royalty-free. This is how RedLetterMedia creates their background music.

The hardware synthesizer piece to this is very interesting to me because it's a piece of technology to learn and experience.


This is a third goal. I enjoy this as a hobby myself but it requires a much deeper dive than goals one and two.


The other thing I want to do is lay down a drum track, bass line and keyboard track for songs that exist in my head. A friend of mine in our college band moved to Colorado, so I can easily drive to his place and record his saxophone part on it. Another friend lives in Kansas and is all-in on this virtual music stuff. He plays guitar. Once all that is done, we convince our vocalist to sing on them and we have another record after a brief 20 year hiatus.


This is what I assumed you were going for when I recommended Reaper + NI Komplete. If you want to make CGI versions of real instruments then an outboard hardware box is not the way to go, what you want is sample-based instruments that you control from within the DAW; don't bother using cables or outboard boxes at all.

(If somebody in your remote-office band already has a DAW then probably the smart way forward is to get the trial of what they're using and open a video chat where they explain how they're using it, since you will likely want to share project files.)
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Any of you ever pay for a new musical work to be made? by Mysterio 11/05/2018, 8:02am PST NEW
    How many hours do you think it will take to make this song? NT by $200 for a days work ain't bad 11/06/2018, 6:36am PST NEW
    It depends. by Fullofkittens 11/07/2018, 8:42am PST NEW
        FoK, are you up on synthesizers at all? by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/06/2018, 12:20pm PST NEW
            I am retracting this question until I learn more. I just realized everything I d by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/07/2018, 10:25am PST NEW
                Arturia CS-80V (software) 150 bucks, free demo by Entropy Stew 12/07/2018, 11:43am PST NEW
                    Re: Arturia CS-80V (software) 150 bucks, free demo by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/07/2018, 12:40pm PST NEW
                        Is your intent to have physical synths? by Entropy Stew 12/07/2018, 1:20pm PST NEW
                            Also: dealing with outboard euipment is a lot more complicated and $$$ NT by Entropy Stew 12/07/2018, 1:22pm PST NEW
                            Re: Is your intent to have physical synths? by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/08/2018, 9:37am PST NEW
                                Pro Tools Free is out by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/08/2018, 1:32pm PST NEW
                                    Abelton Live 10 is in by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/08/2018, 4:00pm PST NEW
                                Pro Tools was always more about recording mic'd up instruments than anything by Entropy Stew 12/08/2018, 3:56pm PST NEW
                                    Fuck Pro Tools and anything owned by Avid. (DAW recommendations!) by Fullofkittens 12/09/2018, 9:35am PST NEW
                                        Oh and I forgot about Reason by Fullofkittens 12/09/2018, 10:21am PST NEW
                                        Re: Fuck Pro Tools and anything owned by Avid. (DAW recommendations!) by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/10/2018, 8:36am PST NEW
                                            Re: Fuck Pro Tools and anything owned by Avid. (DAW recommendations!) by Fullofkittens 12/10/2018, 12:55pm PST NEW
                                                P.S. maybe I should have read the upthread conversation NT by Fullofkittens 12/10/2018, 7:38pm PST NEW
                                                Re: Fuck Pro Tools and anything owned by Avid. (DAW recommendations!) by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/19/2018, 5:19am PST NEW
                                                    Status so far by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/19/2018, 6:33pm PST NEW
                                                        You have to click the "play" button on each track, below where you think you are by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/19/2018, 7:22pm PST NEW
                                                        Think of MIDI like a programmer. by Fullofkittens 12/19/2018, 8:19pm PST NEW
                                                    Re: Fuck Pro Tools and anything owned by Avid. (DAW recommendations!) by Fullofkittens 12/19/2018, 8:31pm PST NEW
                                Would u guys get a Behringer Nitro or Behringer Model D all things being equal? NT by Jack Bauer 12/09/2018, 10:08pm PST NEW
                                    I assume you mean Model D or Neutron? Probably Neutron. by Fullofkittens 12/10/2018, 2:33pm PST NEW
                                        I got a Model D! I have questions. by Ice Cream Jonsey 01/04/2019, 11:07pm PST NEW
                                            Gonna need more details by Fullofkittens 01/05/2019, 6:18am PST NEW
                                                First part: by Ice Cream Jonsey 01/05/2019, 9:17am PST NEW
                                                    Re: First part: by Fullofkittens 01/05/2019, 9:48am PST NEW
                                                        FoK: sko greatest poster in forum history? by Ice Cream Jonsey 01/05/2019, 11:41am PST NEW
                                                            My pleasure, I learned this stuff initially from forum people as well. by Fullofkittens 01/05/2019, 1:16pm PST NEW
                                        Fuck, now I want a Neutron by Entropy Stew 01/11/2019, 8:11pm PST NEW
                                            Fuck, I bought a Minilogue NT by Entropy Stew 01/12/2019, 3:38pm PST NEW
                                                That looks neat. I wish I could justify another synth. by Fullofkittens 01/12/2019, 7:25pm PST NEW
                                                    First patch by Entropy Stew 01/13/2019, 2:04pm PST NEW
                                                        rad, reminds me of Carpenter Brut (which is rad) NT by Fullofkittens 01/14/2019, 4:47am PST NEW
                                                            Found a Blade Runner cover on a minilogue by Entropy Stew 01/14/2019, 8:26am PST NEW
                                                                Outstanding purchase. Now sell me your guitar. NT by Motherhead 01/14/2019, 1:27pm PST NEW
                                                FUCK, THEY JUST CAME OUT WITH A BETTER ONE by Entropy Stew 01/16/2019, 5:10am PST NEW
                                                    Upon listening to the video, might be more of a side-grade than an upgrade by Entropy Stew 01/16/2019, 5:25am PST NEW
    Korg SP280BK ? by Ice Cream Jonsey 05/18/2019, 8:59pm PDT NEW
        USB == you can plug it straight into your computer w/o owning anything else. by Fullofkittens 05/20/2019, 5:13pm PDT NEW
            Thanks again! by Ice Cream Jonsey 05/21/2019, 10:55am PDT NEW
 
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