|| by I need clarification 03/12/2003, 6:06pm PST
Steve Lollerson wrote:
Just when I think the US Gov't can't get any dumber, they surprise me with a new low. Granted, the French have prolly had that comming since...the dawn of time, but this is like McCarthy and his congressional buddies passing a law against the color Red because "the commies use it". I understand that its wrong for me to ask the government to use even a minimal amount of logic in its law/decision making, but whats next? The collective chanting of "nana nana naaa na" by whichever party manages to pass their next bill?
France-bashing is fun and all, but this is fucking ridiculous. (It's old news, too, but whatever). For every person that taunts France with a "You'd be living in Paris, Germany if it weren't for the US of A!" there rightfully is a French guy that says "If it weren't for France, you'd be in Pittsburgh, Great Britain." France has been our ally since before we were a nation. They won the Revolutionary War for us. All it takes is President Chim-Chim and his pack of ignorant goons for us to become their bitter rival. The New York Post cover with the Photoshop weasel heads was the last straw. This is a whole country of dipshit imbeciles.
Lets get past your hatred of a president who's biggest crime seems to be believing in Jesus and executing retards like yourself, and place the blame where it belongs: France. France, those fucking weasels. Lets put aside the notion that France is opposing US policy because of a superior moral compass, because we both know that's bullshit. Jacques Chirac's promise that he would vote against a resolution authorizing war "under any circumstances" showed his "Give inspections a chance" ruse to be the steaming pile of bullshit that most of us have suspected since the day Colin Powell first stared incredulously his European counterparts and asked of Resolution 1441, "why'd you sign the fucking thing if you didn't ever plan on enforcing 'the most serious possible consequences you slimy fucking weasels?".
France's actions are driven by their desire to the limit the reach of US power and as a fairly ballsy gamble, to assert themselves not only as the leaders of Europe, but also as a global power (as they have been trying to do since DeGaulle attempted to position France as an option to the US and the USSR). Unfortunately for them, it appears almost certain that we are about to call their bluff. The United States will expose the French and the United Nations Security Council as the impotent frauds that they are.
ps. If it wasn't Paris, Germany, it would could have most easily been the Soviet State of France.
While I applaud your taking a contrarian view in the Caltrops forum, I must give two emphatic thumbs down to your being so stupid while doing it.
This whole "France is our best friend"/"France is the DEVIL" argument is stupid in general, even more stupid when put in the context of whether they're helping out the United States at the moment or whether they have in the past, and even MORE stupid when its you doing half the arguing.
Ray, of light may be the Klass Klown of Kaltrops that we all enjoy laughing at (or with, whatever), but he was right a few weeks ago when he stated that war is simply another option for nations looking to improve their financial stature or security. Certainly, we (meaning the US) seem far more concerned with Iraq than we do with North Korea, Serbia, the Congo, Israel, or any other potential hotspots around the globe. Since I called you a big fat Rush Limbaugh clone, you can call me an incredibly handsome Ted Rall clone, but it's pretty clear that what Iraq has that all the others don't is LOTSA LOTSA oils. Clearly, there's a huge interest for our country (don't forget, we use more oil than any other country on the planet).
But wait a minute. What if France wants to use some of that oil? And what if they think that helping the US overrun Bagdad just so they can later haggle with us over the price of a barrel of crude isn't maybe in their best national interests? Well, then they're the devil, I guess, because hasn't George W. said the God has sided with America, and as I understand it once He makes up His mind, he's very hard to dissuade? Opposing unchecked power by one nation simply because unchecked power by any single nation has ALWAYS proved to be a bad idea may be a bit idealistic for your gargantuan tastes, Rush, but I don't think it's necessarily evil...
You must be *this* mature to run for office. (another US-Iraq post) by 03/12/2003, 12:20am PST
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The French by 03/12/2003, 12:34am PST
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Re: The French by 03/12/2003, 8:09am PST
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Hatred of Bush - explained! by 03/12/2003, 9:02am PST
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Something happened on Sept 11, 2000? by 03/12/2003, 11:52pm PST
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Re: Hey, Rush Jr. by 03/12/2003, 8:33pm PST
Since you've calmed down a bit, here's some answers by 03/12/2003, 9:21pm PST
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The French respond by 03/12/2003, 4:44pm PST
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You could read it that way... by 03/13/2003, 1:30pm PST
Saving Throw vs. Troll: Succeeded! by 03/13/2003, 1:59pm PST
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