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by junior allen 05/27/2003, 12:44pm PDT |
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Bitter wrote:
Impressions from smaller scenes of the movie:
I think the point(s) of the 'rave' and unsex scene were to convey the, well, humannness of humanity. Pretty much the whole movie focuses on the characters in the Matrix, where everything is heavily stylized and everyone is completely cool in the face of danger. These scenes (and Morpheus embarrassing speech) seemed to me to try and inject some sense of the animalism of humanity into the movie. I got this from the drums and all the shots of rubbing tit and feeting stomping in the mud + strictly amateur hour lighting and camera work for the Trinity/Neo tingly parts interaction emphasising that people sweat and hump and all that good stuff. Dunno, I thought it was well-intentioned but not well executed.
If Persephone is, as everyone seems to agree, a rogue program, then what is the meaning of her longing for love or touch? I don't believe that any other programs in the Matrix show any evidence of this kind of behavior. I liked the scene with the Merovingian, though it appears to be almost universally despised. Both, to me, gave a hint of a sort of decadent, decaying royalty from earlier versions of the Matrix, almost meta-programs that consider the Matrix sort of a trivial diversion (Dangerous Liasons style). Very different from the single-purpose Agents. I was acutally kinda sad to see that Lambert Wilson doesn't appear to be Matrix Revolutions. I liked the casting of Monica Bellucci: I thought she was good in Under Suspicion, and she's hot hot hot.
I wonder at the purpose of the scene on the engineering level of Zion. The gist of it seemed to be that machines can just be machines, and that there are subtleties of interdependence that should be considered rather than Machines Bad People Good. Would extremely gay and in-depth considerations of this scene lend credence to the theory that Zion is simply another later of the Matrix?
Fagging off,
Bitter.
Just wanted to say that I saw this over the holiday weekend and didn't think it was bad at all, certainly far better than the truly godawful X2. Yeah, the first part of the movie is the worst -- rather over-earnest, to be kind. Yeah, the movie ends abruptly. But the acting is passable, the action sequences truly first rate (the W brothers seem to be the only American directors who've done something worthwhile with their HK influence). I thought they came up with a good way to get out of the story hole they were in at the end of MATRIX (basically Neo's Jesus, and what's interesting about watching Jesus?). If we must have self-serious B movies , I much prefer the oddball "AI theory meets third hand Foucult" of RELOADED than the tiresome, predictable "Ashcroft's America is the real enemy" of X2.
A Matrix backlash was probably inevitable, but it's not as bad as the current rap. If you liked the first, you'll like this.
Actually, the summer movie I'm waiting for is Russell Crowe in an adaptation of Patrick O'Brien's sea novels, MASTER AND COMMANDER.
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Zion: Loaded! by Fussbett 05/15/2003, 1:47am PDT
To see a preview of the last movie, stay till after the credits and... by mrs. johnson 05/15/2003, 2:01am PDT
Re: Zion: Loaded! by Forensic 05/15/2003, 3:23am PDT
Re: Zion: Loaded! by Jhoh Creexul 05/15/2003, 2:36pm PDT
Re: Zion: Loaded! (Major Spoilers included below spoiler buffer) by Rightbug 05/15/2003, 11:06pm PDT
Explanation (spoiler) by Mischief Shai-hulud 05/15/2003, 11:32pm PDT
Re: Explanation (spoiler) by Jhoh Creexul 05/15/2003, 11:43pm PDT
Re: Explanation (spoiler) by Rightbug 05/16/2003, 12:11am PDT
Corrections(?) (more spoilers!) by Entropy Stew 05/16/2003, 12:13am PDT
WTF!?!? by Chairman Mao 05/16/2003, 12:15am PDT
Because I saw the 2:45 showing with my boss/partner/friend-type-person NT by Entropy Stew 05/16/2003, 12:17am PDT
I'm retarded. nevermind. NT by Chairman Mao 05/16/2003, 12:21am PDT
Re: WTF!?!? by laudablepuss 05/16/2003, 12:24pm PDT
Re: Corrections(?) (more spoilers!) by Rightbug 05/16/2003, 12:34am PDT
Ooh, nasty. NT by Senor Barborito 05/17/2003, 5:40pm PDT
Also by Entropy Stew 05/16/2003, 1:18am PDT
A plea for balls by Mischief Shai-hulud 05/16/2003, 2:33pm PDT
Re: A plea for balls by ydrt 05/17/2003, 2:26am PDT
Re: A plea for balls by Mischief Shai-hulud 05/17/2003, 10:32am PDT
Re: A plea for balls by Entropy Stew 05/17/2003, 2:17pm PDT
The best review I've read so far by I need clarification 05/17/2003, 8:41pm PDT
More Questions (and more spoilers) by Semi-Drunk-Ranting Cyrris 05/16/2003, 12:25am PDT
Some answers (and more spoilers) by Rightbug 05/16/2003, 1:21am PDT
Things the other dude didn't answer. by Fussbett 05/16/2003, 1:38am PDT
Re: Things the other dude didn't answer. by that guy 05/17/2003, 12:42pm PDT
Re: Things the other dude didn't answer. by I need clarification 05/17/2003, 8:44pm PDT
I'm the BIGGEST MATRIX FANBOY IN THE WORLD (of Zion) by Fussbett 05/17/2003, 9:57pm PDT
Re: I'm the BIGGEST MATRIX FANBOY IN THE WORLD (of Zion) by Semi-Drunk-Ranting Cyrris 05/18/2003, 2:55am PDT
Re: I'm the BIGGEST MATRIX FANBOY IN THE WORLD (of Zion) by Zebco Fuckface 05/18/2003, 3:49pm PDT
Re: More Questions (and more spoilers)-AND MORE SPOILERS by Lizard_King 05/16/2003, 1:41am PDT
Re: More Questions (and more spoilers)-AND MORE SPOILERS by Lizard_King 05/16/2003, 1:43am PDT
Holy shit by I need clarification 05/17/2003, 8:49pm PDT
I didn't think the Oracle was that much worse than average. NT by Lizard_King 05/17/2003, 10:01pm PDT
I gambled on that scene being the perfect time for a bathroom break. I was right by FABIO 06/08/2003, 11:40pm PDT
Re: Explanation (spoiler) by Fussbett 05/16/2003, 1:48am PDT
I'm glad to see the film turned out to be enjoyable after all NT by Joel Silver 05/16/2003, 2:53am PDT
Re: Explanation (spoiler) by laudablepuss 05/16/2003, 10:31am PDT
Re: Explanation (spoiler) by Entropy Stew 05/17/2003, 2:21pm PDT
Re: Explanation (spoiler) by Rightbug 05/16/2003, 11:01am PDT
Re: Explanation (spoiler) by Forensic 05/16/2003, 11:24am PDT
Wait, wait... by Forensic 05/16/2003, 11:38am PDT
Tank was killed in the first one, wasn't he? What's this site doing still up? NT by mrs. johnson 05/18/2003, 9:23pm PDT
I think it was Dozer that got whacked, not Tank...no? NT by Lizard_King 05/18/2003, 9:27pm PDT
either way the remaining darkie was fired for stealing NT by ydrt 05/18/2003, 11:44pm PDT
Stealing what? NT by mrs. johnson 05/18/2003, 11:49pm PDT
some props from the set; i think he also wanted more $$$ NT by ydrt 05/19/2003, 12:31am PDT
I'm all in favor of boycotting this and every Matrix movie for any reason NT by I need clarification 05/19/2003, 12:36am PDT
You didn't even like the first one? NT by mrs. johnson 05/19/2003, 1:32am PDT
No. Not even a little bit. Okay, maybe a little bit. by I need clarification 05/19/2003, 2:15am PDT
Re: No. Not even a little bit. Okay, maybe a little bit. by Lizard_King 05/19/2003, 4:18am PDT
What? by I need clarification 05/19/2003, 5:34am PDT
I guess that makes sense. by Lizard_King 05/19/2003, 10:14am PDT
What are those? by I need clarification 05/19/2003, 11:59am PDT
Re: What are those? by Lizard_King 05/19/2003, 12:07pm PDT
Re: What? by Rightbug 05/19/2003, 5:39pm PDT
Agreed by Senor Barborito 05/19/2003, 5:45pm PDT
That was a worthless post by I need clarification 05/19/2003, 5:54pm PDT
Re: That was a worthless post by Rightbug 05/19/2003, 6:34pm PDT
on Predator by Fullofkittens 05/19/2003, 7:29pm PDT
Re: on Predator by Lufteufel 05/31/2003, 12:24am PDT
This guy was kind of mean NT by Wrongbug 06/04/2017, 3:50pm PDT
AND a Jew NT by Caltrops' Alt-Right Invasion 06/04/2017, 3:51pm PDT
Thank god it's still up by I need clarification 05/19/2003, 2:03am PDT
I explain the Architect by mrs. johnson 05/16/2003, 12:42pm PDT
Re: I explain the Architect by Rightbug 05/16/2003, 4:22pm PDT
Re: I explain the Architect by laudablepuss 05/16/2003, 4:30pm PDT
Re: I explain the Architect by Lizard_King 05/16/2003, 5:11pm PDT
Re: I explain the Architect by Mischief Shai-hulud 05/17/2003, 10:29am PDT
Re: I explain the Architect by Bitter 05/17/2003, 8:00pm PDT
Re: I explain the Architect by Bob Violence 05/17/2003, 8:28pm PDT
Re: I explain the Architect by I need clarification 05/17/2003, 8:54pm PDT
Re: I explain the Architect by Lizard_King 05/18/2003, 4:54pm PDT
Re: I explain the Architect by laudablepuss 05/19/2003, 1:00pm PDT
Cornel West by Lizard_King 05/19/2003, 1:17pm PDT
Re: Explanation (spoiler) by sfg 06/14/2003, 6:16pm PDT
Okay, NOW I got it (Get yer spoilerz on) by Mischief Shai-hulud 05/17/2003, 10:21am PDT
Re: Okay, NOW I got it (Get yer spoilerz on) by Rightbug 05/17/2003, 3:28pm PDT
Re: Okay, NOW I got it (Get yer spoilerz on) by Jhoh Creexul 05/17/2003, 5:18pm PDT
Re: Okay, NOW I got it (Get yer spoilerz on) by MM 05/17/2003, 7:23pm PDT
Caltrops reviews The Matrix article anyone? NT by Entropy Stew 05/17/2003, 8:06pm PDT
actually by ydrt 05/17/2003, 9:42pm PDT
Re: Okay, NOW I got it (Get yer spoilerz on) by Bob Violence 05/17/2003, 8:29pm PDT
Re: Okay, NOW I got it (Get yer spoilerz on) by Zebco Fuckface 05/18/2003, 2:32am PDT
Re: Okay, NOW I got it (Get yer spoilerz on) by Rightbug 05/19/2003, 4:30pm PDT
alternate door #2 theory. by FABIO 06/13/2003, 12:18am PDT
Much Gayness by Bitter 05/17/2003, 8:51pm PDT
Slightly more gayness by Bob Violence 05/18/2003, 12:26am PDT
Re: Slightly more gayness by Jhoh Creexul 05/18/2003, 12:51am PDT
PERSEPHONE = MOTHER OF MATRIX (spoiler) (nt) NT by Binroi l'heretique 05/18/2003, 8:44pm PDT
Speech of Architect (spoilerama) by Binroi l'heretique 05/18/2003, 9:04pm PDT
stating the obvious for those who need it by ydrt 05/18/2003, 9:11pm PDT
Re: stating the obvious for those who need it by Fullofkittens 05/18/2003, 10:23pm PDT
Re: stating the obvious for those who need it by Jhoh Creexul 05/18/2003, 10:28pm PDT
Re: Speech of Architect (spoilerama) MINUS SPELLING/GRAMMAR ERRORS by Some Grammar Fag 05/18/2003, 9:19pm PDT
Jesus God you're a faggot NT by Hans Gruber 05/19/2003, 8:35pm PDT
Re: Much Gayness by junior allen 05/27/2003, 12:44pm PDT
Only bit I'm having trouble with now by Bunyip 05/19/2003, 4:10pm PDT
holy shit by Lizard_King 05/19/2003, 4:15pm PDT
Because your type has trouble looking into the mirror, dumbass. by The Obvious Response 05/19/2003, 4:22pm PDT
Looks in the mirror. Cries. Realizes crying is effeminate. Cries some more.NT by Lizard_King 05/27/2003, 3:28am PDT
uh oh by FABIO 06/09/2003, 12:36am PDT
Revolutions dialog revealed. by Fussbett 05/23/2003, 9:41am PDT
Re: Revolutions dialog revealed. by foogla 05/23/2003, 11:38am PDT
Re: Revolutions dialog revealed. by Choson 05/23/2003, 1:32pm PDT
Re: Revolutions dialog revealed. by Bitter 05/23/2003, 8:17pm PDT
I'm handing out props. by Fussbett 05/23/2003, 9:40pm PDT
Re: I'm handing out props. by Chairman Mao 05/23/2003, 9:47pm PDT
Re: I'm handing out props. by Lufteufel 05/23/2003, 10:10pm PDT
Re: I'm handing out props. by Jhoh Creexul 05/27/2003, 12:07pm PDT
Re: I'm handing out props. by sfg 06/14/2003, 6:20pm PDT
YOU CUNT! YOU'RE A CUNT! NT by Larry David 06/14/2003, 8:35pm PDT
Re: Revolutions dialog revealed. by Jhoh Creexul 05/27/2003, 7:28am PDT
Anyone who said anything nice about this is movie is fired NT by fabio 06/04/2017, 7:57pm PDT
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