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Most arguments against nethack here are utter BS by Robsuke 07/11/2005, 3:00am PDT
anon wrote:

if you don't like the game, then don't play it. just don't complain to complain.

I have only been playing a week and already got down to lvl 13 of the dungeon, showing that the game is not impossible. so shut up and play your diablo


Indeed. With a little bit of brains and actual interest for this kind of games (no, it's really not comparable to diablo and if you like diablo you might very well dislike nethack - I love nethack and I found diablo to be a bit of fun for a couple days, but then got bored of it) you can easy play to the bottom of gnomish mines, find the stone of luck, get drunk on gnomish wine cellar, get back up to level 2 or 3 and continue with normal levels (the gnomish mines is just a trip very recommended to take in between) when a lot more experienced and better equipped to further and further. The fact that when you die you really do die does add an element missing from a shitload of games with the major exception beeing - guess what? - rogue-like games.

Most claims about why nethack sucks are not even true here, btw. Example: Your pet avoids walking on cursed items, you should never wear or wield an item that is identified of beeing cursed - I rarely buy scroll of identification at all, but there is a good way to find it in a shop that sells scrolls. Want a shitload of shopping? Play mall tycoon, in nethack shops are not at all the main way of getting equipment and other stuff - if you can't imagine a game where most objects are reached without ever walking into a shop then maybe you need some imagination expansion. You can find a level full of shops in gnomish mines, btw... I think it's usually 5th or 6th level in gnomish mines. From there I rarely buy anything else than a couple lamps for dark levels and a pick-axe (if I dont have one) for the bottom floor of gnomish mines...

Nethack is an awesome game for people who like to find new stuff, ideas, revelations, etc. and are not bothered about lack of graphics (personally I enjoy the look of nethack - and I dont understand the comment about beeing able to play nethack with pencil and paper. Yes you can (kind of) if by pencil and paper you mean a guide book for AD&D, pencil, dices and character sheets... ;) Actually I could just as well claim that you can play Diablo, Unreal or whateverthefuckyouwant with pen and paper - you just have to be a good enough drawer. LOL, what a load of bollocks.

Most of the comments about what's wrong with nethack are clear examples of talking without knowing a jacks shit about nethack - some of them seem to reveal bad case of lack of imagination (many people are not used to think what kind of things could be possible to do to achieve different things in computer games because most games do not offer such wide variety of possible ways to do things and most games seem to simply reveal the possible ways to the player right away so you never really have to ponder about how to go on with other kinds of cRPG's...

That's just my 2 cents - nethack is not for everyone, but it's a shame that people who didn't find it to be a game of theirs have to be lame enough to write flame writings about a game that they don't have a slightest idea of how to play it - which is clearly the case with the ones who whine about dying all the time on lower levels. It is actually quite rare to die without getting at least to gnomish mines shopping level if you don't take risks. Many of us however deliberately want to take those chances - there's always the next game to play if you blow it.
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NetHack is gayness by foolio 10/07/2004, 10:14pm PDT NEW
    Re: NetHack is gayness by curst 10/07/2004, 11:03pm PDT NEW
    This game can be simulated by taking thimbles and moving them on paper. by Creexul :( 10/08/2004, 12:21am PDT NEW
        Re: This game can be simulated by taking thimbles and moving them on paper. by anon 06/07/2005, 6:20pm PDT NEW
    Re: NetHack is gayness by Fussbett 10/08/2004, 12:31am PDT NEW
    Nethack is awesomeness by Daverd 10/08/2004, 1:05am PDT NEW
        Re: Nethack is awesomeness by anon 06/07/2005, 10:07pm PDT NEW
            Re: Nethack is awesomeness by Voyons Donc 06/08/2005, 11:10am PDT NEW
            Re: Nethack is awesomeness by Stu 03/18/2008, 3:21pm PDT NEW
    Re: NetHack is gayness by N 10/08/2004, 11:20pm PDT NEW
        Re: NetHack is gayness by anon 06/07/2005, 6:20pm PDT NEW
    Mischief Maker and I both hate it too. NT by whydirt 10/08/2004, 11:35pm PDT NEW
    Re: NetHack is gayness by anon 06/06/2005, 10:08pm PDT NEW
        Re: NetHack is gayness by mark 06/06/2005, 11:17pm PDT NEW
            Re: NetHack is gayness by Daverd 06/07/2005, 7:37am PDT NEW
                I so didn't reread this thread I didn't even notice the title of your post. NT by mark 06/07/2005, 9:25am PDT NEW
                Re: NetHack is gayness by anon 06/07/2005, 6:18pm PDT NEW
            Re: NetHack is gayness by anon 06/07/2005, 6:12pm PDT NEW
        "you're not hardcore enough for this game, go back to (simpler, more fun game)" NT by Defense of overrated indy games 06/07/2005, 1:23am PDT NEW
        Most arguments against nethack here are utter BS by Robsuke 07/11/2005, 3:00am PDT NEW
            I don't know shit about nethack, never played it, and it sucks. NT by Creexul :( 07/11/2005, 4:33am PDT NEW
            Re: Most arguments against nethack here are utter BS by Tony 07/11/2005, 4:40am PDT NEW
                Re: Most arguments against nethack here are utter BS by Robsuke 07/11/2005, 11:44am PDT NEW
            you're not hardcore enough for this game, go back to (simpler, more fun game) by Defense of overrated indy games 07/11/2005, 9:04am PDT NEW
            Re: Most arguments against nethack here are utter BS by Bill Dungsroman 07/11/2005, 12:32pm PDT NEW
                Re: Most arguments against nethack here are utter BS by Robsuke 07/15/2005, 6:37am PDT NEW
            Most arguments against nethack here are utter BS... BUT NOT ALL OF THEM! by Mischief Maker 07/11/2005, 5:10pm PDT NEW
                You're thinking about Nethack the wrong way by Daverd 07/11/2005, 7:51pm PDT NEW
                    Lets put Nethack on a list with classic arcade games! by A Retarded Person 07/11/2005, 10:51pm PDT NEW
                        Re: Lets put Nethack on a list with classic arcade games! by Daverd 07/11/2005, 11:21pm PDT NEW
                            Re: Lets put Nethack on a list with classic arcade games! by bombMexico 07/11/2005, 11:53pm PDT NEW
                            Re: Lets put Nethack on a list with classic arcade games! by Robsuke 07/15/2005, 6:31am PDT NEW
                                Yeah, force everyone into "Ironman Mode", that's the ticket. by Worm 07/15/2005, 8:30am PDT NEW
            One more person to the pile officially makes this a gangrape by bombMexico 07/11/2005, 11:27pm PDT NEW
                Re: One more person to the pile officially makes this a gangrape by Robsuke 07/15/2005, 6:36am PDT NEW
                    (actually, he's in denial about being 100% gay) NT by Robsuke's wife 07/15/2005, 7:25am PDT NEW
            Re: Most arguments against nethack here are utter BS by Entropy Stew 07/12/2005, 1:09am PDT NEW
            Re: Most arguments against nethack here are utter BS by Rafiki 07/12/2005, 12:13pm PDT NEW
                Re: Most arguments against nethack here are utter BS by Bill Dungsroman 07/12/2005, 1:20pm PDT NEW
                    WHAT?! by Fussbett 07/12/2005, 3:31pm PDT NEW
                        Jesus, did you drop your Molson or what? by Bill Dungsroman 07/12/2005, 10:05pm PDT NEW
                            Re: Jesus, did you drop your Molson or what? by I need clarification 07/12/2005, 11:17pm PDT NEW
                    OMG IT TAKES YOUR HALF INCH COCK 30 MINUTES TO RECOVER AHHAAA HA NT by BDRbot 07/12/2005, 3:49pm PDT NEW
                Re: Most arguments against nethack here are utter BS by laudablepuss 07/12/2005, 2:33pm PDT NEW
    Nethack is everything bad about cRPGs in your face with none of the good. by Mischief Maker 06/07/2005, 2:14pm PDT NEW
        Re: Nethack is everything bad about cRPGs in your face with none of the good. by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/07/2005, 2:59pm PDT NEW
        Also, as contracted by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/07/2005, 3:14pm PDT NEW
        Re: Nethack is everything bad about cRPGs in your face with none of the good. by anon 06/07/2005, 6:15pm PDT NEW
            Re: Nethack is everything bad about cRPGs in your face with none of the good. by Creexul :( 06/07/2005, 7:07pm PDT NEW
            Re: Nethack is everything bad about cRPGs in your face with none of the good. by Universal Plan B 06/07/2005, 7:38pm PDT NEW
                Re: Nethack is everything bad about cRPGs in your face with none of the good. by Creexul :( 06/07/2005, 7:43pm PDT NEW
                There are graphical frontends for nethack NT by Daverd 06/08/2005, 3:40pm PDT NEW
                Re: Nethack is everything bad about cRPGs in your face with none of the good. by Robsuke 07/11/2005, 3:17am PDT NEW
                    video by Fussbett 07/11/2005, 5:27am PDT NEW
                    you're not hardcore enough for this software go back to (simpler software) NT by Defense of overrated indy aps 07/11/2005, 9:05am PDT NEW
                    Re: Nethack is everything bad about cRPGs in your face with none of the good. by Entropy Stew 07/12/2005, 2:37am PDT NEW
                        Frawress Victory! NT by Thread announcer 07/12/2005, 6:00pm PDT NEW
            I enjoy fighting monsters, not your inventory/biological functions/interface by Mischief Philistine 06/11/2005, 8:08pm PDT NEW
 
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