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Long Awaited MGS4 Review: Negative by Lizard_King 06/24/2008, 12:41am PDT
[01:11] Motherhead: though I will never sit through a 1+ hour cutscene, ever.
[01:11] Motherhead: unless it's a Coen brothers game of some kind.

[01:13] HIDEOHUGGER: to put it mildly, it's not

[01:13] Motherhead: well put.

[01:14] HIDEOHUGGER: At one point, a crucial conflict is settled in a dance off between one gay guy who does flamenco style and a cyborg ninja who retorts via breakdancing.
[01:15] HIDEOHUGGER: that is one of the high points

[01:15] Motherhead: ...
[01:15] Motherhead: jesus christ, why?
[01:15] Motherhead: I mean japanese culture in general.

[01:16] HIDEOHUGGER: Well, fortunately Kojima included 15 hours of cutscenes and codecs to address that concern. As well as a free downloadable database to break it down systematically
[01:16] HIDEOHUGGER: but as to the existential why
[01:16] HIDEOHUGGER: I can't help you
[01:17] HIDEOHUGGER: the ending boss fight (and subsequent 3.5 minutes) is probably one of the best I've seen in recent years
[01:17] HIDEOHUGGER: but you need a bullshit tolerance of truly epic proportions to get there and be in a position to enjoy it

[01:20] Motherhead: yeah, it certainly sounds that way. my exposure to Jpop-rpg-mg ranges from "infuriatingly inscrutable" to "this is a Berlin homosexual cabaret circa 1929 as envisioned by a committee of japanese deviants."

[01:21] HIDEOHUGGER: that experience will prove invaluable in failing to enjoy MGS4

[01:22] Motherhead: I guess if I hate it with all my heart I can send it to INC so he can throw it away without playing it.

[01:23] HIDEOHUGGER: I think you might be able to salvage the experience if you skip cutscenes liberally, whenever it's clear that a codec conversation or a sepia toned documentary sequence follows at the least
[01:24] HIDEOHUGGER: the controls are the best in the series, the ideal marriage of MGS2's simple yet empowering weirdness and MGs3's painfully encumbering variety

I could go on, but none of it would make a difference. The fact is they had the controls and the basic concepts to produce an RE4 caliber reboot of the series, and opted instead for never saying no to a single moment of Kojima self indulgence and fanservice. The result is messy and difficult to love for fans that don't implement an extensive regimen of self-loathing into their daily routines, and practically impossible for newcomers to get through. Fuck this game, fuck the PS3, and fuck me for being almost done with my third playthrough.
Long Awaited MGS4 Review: Negative by Lizard_King 06/24/2008, 12:41am PDT NEW
    Re: Long Awaited MGS4 Review: Negative by Creexuls, a monster >:3 06/24/2008, 8:46am PDT NEW
        "Ridge Racer 8 introduced by Chewbacca" I do not understand this, but I stand be NT by hind it 100% Entropy Stew 06/24/2008, 9:53am PDT NEW
            Ok, I have to really know, what utterly PROFOUND SHIT did Kojima have to say NT by about PMC's and neoconservatives? 06/24/2008, 2:51pm PDT NEW
                They're bad. That's pretty much it. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 06/24/2008, 3:23pm PDT NEW
                you can pick whichever side you want! NT by Grumah 06/26/2008, 7:59am PDT NEW
                    Not true by Lizard_King 06/26/2008, 4:42pm PDT NEW
                        this game sounds terrible NT by Grumah 06/27/2008, 12:29pm PDT NEW
                            And pretentious (and the story is comparable to an MST3K movie). NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 06/27/2008, 1:16pm PDT NEW
            It was the last whatever (E3 or murrican gaem thing). by Creexuls, a monster >:3 06/24/2008, 3:24pm PDT NEW
    Everyone keeps comparing Hideo to the wrong director by FABIO 08/11/2008, 2:12pm PDT NEW
        The correct answer is Ed Wood. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 08/11/2008, 2:30pm PDT NEW
        Who compared Hideo to the Coen Brothers? No wonder Mass Effect infuriates you. NT by Motherhead 08/11/2008, 2:54pm PDT NEW
            I think it was the Slate reviewer of MGS4. :( NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 08/11/2008, 3:11pm PDT NEW
                No. NT by Motherhead 08/11/2008, 6:18pm PDT NEW
                    Who would Dana Stevens compare him to? NT by WWDSD? 08/11/2008, 6:55pm PDT NEW
                        Paul NT by Wolfowitz 08/11/2008, 7:16pm PDT NEW
                        buhs's irakkkq NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 08/11/2008, 7:24pm PDT NEW
        Great minds...? by Jeff Fries 08/12/2008, 2:35am PDT NEW
            I read all of those as "better than." NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 08/12/2008, 6:47am PDT NEW
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