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Long Awaited MGS4 Review: Negative by Lizard_King 06/24/2008, 12:41am PDT
[01:11] Motherhead: though I will never sit through a 1+ hour cutscene, ever.
[01:11] Motherhead: unless it's a Coen brothers game of some kind.

[01:13] HIDEOHUGGER: to put it mildly, it's not

[01:13] Motherhead: well put.

[01:14] HIDEOHUGGER: At one point, a crucial conflict is settled in a dance off between one gay guy who does flamenco style and a cyborg ninja who retorts via breakdancing.
[01:15] HIDEOHUGGER: that is one of the high points

[01:15] Motherhead: ...
[01:15] Motherhead: jesus christ, why?
[01:15] Motherhead: I mean japanese culture in general.

[01:16] HIDEOHUGGER: Well, fortunately Kojima included 15 hours of cutscenes and codecs to address that concern. As well as a free downloadable database to break it down systematically
[01:16] HIDEOHUGGER: but as to the existential why
[01:16] HIDEOHUGGER: I can't help you
[01:17] HIDEOHUGGER: the ending boss fight (and subsequent 3.5 minutes) is probably one of the best I've seen in recent years
[01:17] HIDEOHUGGER: but you need a bullshit tolerance of truly epic proportions to get there and be in a position to enjoy it

[01:20] Motherhead: yeah, it certainly sounds that way. my exposure to Jpop-rpg-mg ranges from "infuriatingly inscrutable" to "this is a Berlin homosexual cabaret circa 1929 as envisioned by a committee of japanese deviants."

[01:21] HIDEOHUGGER: that experience will prove invaluable in failing to enjoy MGS4

[01:22] Motherhead: I guess if I hate it with all my heart I can send it to INC so he can throw it away without playing it.

[01:23] HIDEOHUGGER: I think you might be able to salvage the experience if you skip cutscenes liberally, whenever it's clear that a codec conversation or a sepia toned documentary sequence follows at the least
[01:24] HIDEOHUGGER: the controls are the best in the series, the ideal marriage of MGS2's simple yet empowering weirdness and MGs3's painfully encumbering variety

I could go on, but none of it would make a difference. The fact is they had the controls and the basic concepts to produce an RE4 caliber reboot of the series, and opted instead for never saying no to a single moment of Kojima self indulgence and fanservice. The result is messy and difficult to love for fans that don't implement an extensive regimen of self-loathing into their daily routines, and practically impossible for newcomers to get through. Fuck this game, fuck the PS3, and fuck me for being almost done with my third playthrough.
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Long Awaited MGS4 Review: Negative by Lizard_King 06/24/2008, 12:41am PDT NEW
    Re: Long Awaited MGS4 Review: Negative by Creexuls, a monster >:3 06/24/2008, 8:46am PDT NEW
        "Ridge Racer 8 introduced by Chewbacca" I do not understand this, but I stand be NT by hind it 100% Entropy Stew 06/24/2008, 9:53am PDT NEW
            Ok, I have to really know, what utterly PROFOUND SHIT did Kojima have to say NT by about PMC's and neoconservatives? 06/24/2008, 2:51pm PDT NEW
                They're bad. That's pretty much it. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 06/24/2008, 3:23pm PDT NEW
                you can pick whichever side you want! NT by Grumah 06/26/2008, 7:59am PDT NEW
                    Not true by Lizard_King 06/26/2008, 4:42pm PDT NEW
                        this game sounds terrible NT by Grumah 06/27/2008, 12:29pm PDT NEW
                            And pretentious (and the story is comparable to an MST3K movie). NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 06/27/2008, 1:16pm PDT NEW
            It was the last whatever (E3 or murrican gaem thing). by Creexuls, a monster >:3 06/24/2008, 3:24pm PDT NEW
    Everyone keeps comparing Hideo to the wrong director by FABIO 08/11/2008, 2:12pm PDT NEW
        The correct answer is Ed Wood. NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 08/11/2008, 2:30pm PDT NEW
        Who compared Hideo to the Coen Brothers? No wonder Mass Effect infuriates you. NT by Motherhead 08/11/2008, 2:54pm PDT NEW
            I think it was the Slate reviewer of MGS4. :( NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 08/11/2008, 3:11pm PDT NEW
                No. NT by Motherhead 08/11/2008, 6:18pm PDT NEW
                    Who would Dana Stevens compare him to? NT by WWDSD? 08/11/2008, 6:55pm PDT NEW
                        Paul NT by Wolfowitz 08/11/2008, 7:16pm PDT NEW
                        buhs's irakkkq NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 08/11/2008, 7:24pm PDT NEW
        Great minds...? by Jeff Fries 08/12/2008, 2:35am PDT NEW
            I read all of those as "better than." NT by Creexuls, a monster >:3 08/12/2008, 6:47am PDT NEW
 
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