Caltrops - Mad Men





	[quote name="Fussbett"][quote name="up with pod people"]but you're taking my comment as though I diagrammed the characters and labelled Draper "antagonist." I merely recognize that he is no dashing heartthrob I wish I could meet; he is an attractive, beautifully described Bad Man who is best witnessed at a fictional distance. wouldn't want anyone to chalk up attraction to him as proof that chicks love jerks.[/quote] I'm taking your comment as though you called him a "villain", which is silly on a show like this. When you see Draper and Duck or Draper and Pete fight within the company do you view that as two evils clashing and hope they destroy each other so that Peggy can rise through the ranks even faster? More importantly, how many hit points do you think Don has? We all know that women have rape fantasies and rape is still illegal so calm down, you don't have to go around telling everyone you disapprove of Don Draper. Go ahead and wish to meet him in the safety of your own head. [quote]Don and Betty: the most interesting thing about them is not the soap opera you bristled about in the other forum. it is that when you scratch the surface they are flawlessly matched: she is his precise female counterpart. ...it's fascinating to see how different societal roles mold the 'same' person. [/quote] That's not very interesting, and I'm not even sure I'm that impressed with how similar they are despite your WASP checklist. Finally I don't get how societal roles mold the 'same' person, or what that means. You mean the societal roles of being a man or a woman in 1960-1962? [quote]...and yet Betty is disdained and summons nowhere near the sympathy Don evokes, and it's not just because of lack of screen time.[/quote] The show put a lot of effort towards how Don became the broken person he is today, more than just peaks at his underside. It's what season 1 was entirely about, where season 2 focuses more on why Betty is sad: because of Don's cheating (and maybe emotional distance). But if Betty knew what the audience knows about Don, she would be more understanding, just as most of the audience is more understanding with Don (but not you). This is why Betty gets less sympathy in general, because we're rooting for Don in general. [quote]it is also because he's a man who completely inhabits His World.[/quote] Don't quote whatever this is quoted from anymore. :( [quote]to your question, I think of all the characters, the most "good" is Peggy. or Sal.[/quote] But but but how can they be good when Peggy had sex with an engaged/married man and hates/disowns her own bastard child, while Salvatore has roped in a young girl as his beard to ruin her life and live a lie with him? And Salvatore is gay.[/quote]