Caltrops - Laurence Fishburne's Dance Dance Revolution





	[quote name="Mysterio"][quote name="Bananadine"][quote name="NDD"]Here is your explanation, since its absence seems to distress you so and above all I wish to be cooperative: I was impersonating the creepy, toxic, sexualized mindset that led the OP to post his idiot link in the first place. Of course a little of the effect is lost because I'm not actually an awful person and I don't hate men as much as OP hates women. [/quote] If I'm representative of your audience, then nearly all the effect was lost. That's partly why I asked whether you thought it was foolish to fail to understand. Who understands? Jsoh? Some other big-name posters? Who do you write for? Maybe I can IM them or something, and get some help.[/quote] <img src="http://i.imgur.com/6lf9X.jpg" style="float:right; margin: 15px;">Twice in replies to my post - "I don't understand." Ha ha now imagine a whole lifetime of that: presented with signs and symbols and words which you are sure must be important, but whose meaning evades you. Now imagine that every time you missed the message -- instead of someone explaining it to you, you were simply told you were inferior, and that as a representative of a minority group you were proof that the entire minority was inferior. What you saw was my reciprocation of the unreadable symbol in the original post. What the fuck was someone trying to say to me? So I read it back, translated. Is your response some sort of arousal or irritation? Confusion? The feeling there is something personal at stake? It demands a reply, possibly? [quote]Did that sound sarcastic or insulting? I suspect it did. I'm trying to roleplay as a cheerful robot here, more or less. I gather it's not working. In fact I fear it's working worse on you than your frilly underwear thing did on me. Do I sound like I secretly want to be Fussbett? I don't know how to do better. I can't bear to put myself out there the way you've done; maybe Caltrops Voice with Minimal Explicit Mockery is the best I can achieve.[/quote] If there were a whole world of people who find me interesting but not valuable, how would I know the difference between "attention" and "affection"? This is my quandry, however late in life I come to it. [quote][quote name="NDD"] This theme is so obtrusively common in my life that I didn't even realize anything was wrong with it until a few months ago.[/quote] I don't know how that could be possible! So it's interesting and, yes, alien to me. It's natural to want to ask questions about such a thing.[/quote] Post pictures of your living room or cats, please. [quote][quote name="NDD"] But nobody ever asks "hey why is there always a guy trying to set Zseni off with horrible reminders of how much women are universally mocked and loathed?" Is it so self-evident as to negate questioning?[/quote] Questions, hooray! To me it's that evident, which is why I didn't ask about it, yeah! Is that strange? Different people understand different things. I'm not a Dallas slut-shamer myself, but I can sort of imagine how it would feel to be one. I mean, I sure don't understand <i>everything</i> about the people who contributed to that blog post. There are always any number of things that could be questioned. But taking shots at folks like those Dallas women who are so obviously being stupid and wrong and bad, with their fatness and their saying "slut" like it could ever possibly be a GOOD thing, that you fail to even recognize them as people anymore--being what people like you might call "thoughtless" or "incurious"--yeah I know how that feels! I've been capable of that kind of stupidity. Didn't you, ever in your life, do anything that had that flavor? Maybe you didn't. I think you've said you don't understand cruelty, or can't tolerate it, or something like that. Maybe you've never been cruel in that way?? That'd be hard for me to understand. This cruelty feels like the product of a natural, ordinary tendency, to me. That's why I don't bother asking about it.[/quote] The slutwalk was part of a multinational organized movement to protest the idea that if a woman dresses "sluttily" she should expect a measure of sexual misbehavior from the men around her. Specifically, a Canadian police chief warned that women need to dress sensibly when they are out and about, and not like sluts. For whatever ill-advised reason, I believe that men are not slaves of their sex drives and that women should not have to compensate for the inability of men to control themselves. Call it hopelessly naivete if you like! People closer to me have called it worse. The idea that the word "slut" has to mean something horrible, rather than "woman who likes having sex and not feeling bad about it" - itself an almost treasonous idea in cultural discourse - is objectionable to me. The idea that a woman must be At Least This Attractive To Protest This Notion (holds hand way over head) is objectionable and poisonous, and I can only start to approximate how stupid it looks to me with something like A Man Must Have At Least This Much Natural Hair On His Head To Run For Political Office. I'm at war with these "natural, ordinary tendencies" that punish people for looking like people and having the desires and needs of people. I am as much at war with them on behalf of men as of women, but the state of women being generally worse, I fight generally harder on that front. When I want to be cruel I don't pick my targets from the ranks of these underdogs. [quote]Oh but you're talking about Caltrops posters picking at you. Well yeah that seems natural enough to me too. You troll <i>me</i>, and I'm enough like <i>them</i> that they don't smell alien to me. So maybe you troll them too. That could be where some of it starts. Or maybe sometimes they see a big, loud, well-known person who's ready to publicly react and so they go for the reaction, just for fun, in the basic troll style. (N.B.: I haven't seriously tried to explain, in this paragraph or in this thread, how you "troll me", because making myself more than shallowly emotionally vulnerable to Caltrops seems like a bad idea, especially when I'm in the middle of a conversation with somebody who just called me a fuckface. I don't trust you people!)[/quote] As I said before, there are a lot of posters on Caltrops who can dish it out and very few who can take it. But remember! The real problem is no fresh blood! [quote]Of course it's not only <i>your</i> fault that jerks fight with you here. Being the one versus the many doesn't mean you get all the blame--well, not by reasonable people's standards, anyway. But you do seem to be that particular problem's finest speaking organ. I mean, Jsoh doesn't even seem very interested, does he? With you there's a chance of sincerity. That's another reason to ask you and not him.[/quote] So, bewilderment. Married to a love of efficiency. Of course, as this is Caltrops, it was fine to be as abrasive as you pleased when requesting information. <img src="http://i.imgur.com/NzeRj.jpg" style="float:left; margin: 15px;"> To be - defended. The closest experience I've ever had to that in my life was at the beginning of my LJ tenure, where I was publicly called a huge creep, and just as publicly defended by several big-name posters who had found me entertaining. It was nice. :) I was already 30 then; that's a very late age at which to discover the joys of being stuck-up-for. When I realized that I had been continually thrown under the bus by friends and lovers in real life (because it was easier and/or more exciting to mistreat me than other people) and as continually called "alien" for trivialities while other people were allowed to do anything they liked to me (because it wasn't even worth questioning why they would do such things; it was ordinary, natural, brought on by my innate trollishness) -- you might say I lost my taste for getting as backhanded online as I was offline. Even the most petty things upset me now. Because I have figured out exactly how useless it was to put up with them in the past. The more I thought about things like this, the more I just wanted to disappear into the beautiful world and never again deal with the men I had pointlessly failed to pointlessly please - you see this sensibility and eloquence cuts both ways. And why would I even bother to explain this much if not out of habit?[/quote]