Forum Overview :: Mac Hall Complaints Department :: Re: What are you even arguing?

[quote name="ndd"][quote name="Mysterio"][quote name="Jessica Alba"]That rape jokes make people dismissive of real rape crimes? This is no more true than jokes involving violence or murder. In fact, the kinds of rape most often joked about are child abuse and prison rape so I'm not sure where you're getting your cries of misogyny and YOU CANT POSSIBLY UNDERSTAND from, other than wanting to be above reproach. .[/quote] It's important to locate rape in culture because women don't want to believe that most men want to fuck most of them most of the time, and those men that lack self restraint go on to rape. Women don't want to see their sons, fathers, husbands, friends, co-workers, whatever, as intrinsic rapists who are held back by the exercise of their willpower. Instead rape has to be a product of a patriarchy that conceives of women as chattel owned by their fathers or husbands to be disposed of as they see fit, or it's the product of popular culture that erodes women's boundaries through mockery and makes them rapeable. Never mind that the Northern European countries with the most gender equitable social arrangements have the highest rate of sexual violence in the developed world...[/quote] If this was true, wouldn't it be <i>understandably critical</i> to remove rape from the sphere of humor entirely? How could there be anything more serious than a man losing control of himself so violently and by this putting the whole fabric of civilization, dependent as it is on the self-restraint of men, at risk? Joking about that would be like joking about lynching or, say, Nanking, or something like that. Thought Experiment: Penny Arcade made a Team Tuskegee University Science Is Awesomewolves shirt. Are you busy defending the inherent, scientifically-proven superiority of the white race, demonstrated as it was through numerous objective and unquestionable studies, consequently that whole syphilis experiment thing might be horrible but it was basically just the exercise of inherent superiority over the inferior, and the only reason shit like that doesn't happen all the time is because white people are exercising self-restraint? Maybe you would show up to tell anyone who's upset about the shirt that they lack a sense of humor, or they are trying to Locate Tuskegee In Culture because the truth is too unpleasant for them to deal with? Anyway your hideous little boogerpile of self-reinforcing cherry-picked "evidence" is comical; you will never in a million years be able to say with a straight face that there are more incidents of sexual violence per capita in Iceland than Russia. More reported, maybe. More prosecuted, definitely. One is somehow reminded of a problem we have here in the States.[/quote]