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The Escapist's side of the story makes them sound like even bigger pricks. by Jerry Whorebach 08/12/2011, 2:35pm PDT
"When James came to us looking for the money he was owed, I was the one who told him 'why don't you try begging?' That was MY IDEA."

Hey guys. This is Alexander Macris. I'm the publisher. Jame's statements are very one-sided so I think they deserve a response.
Yes, we are having a very unfortunate dispute with James over Extra Credits, and yes, he's planning to leave The Escapist, despite our repeated requests that he stay. It's also true that we fell behind in paying James.

Here are the key facts as I see them:

1. From November 2010 to June 2011, James told us not to worry about paying him and to focus on paying other people. His exact words were "I really don't want to squeeze you guys if you're in a crunch, so you can put us to the bottom of the list for right now..." Given that we have been in a crunch due to the recession, we took him at his word, thanked him profusely for the flexibility, and focused on paying down other debt. (Several other shows were cancelled around November 2010 you'll recall, as we couldn't pay them, but James' flexibility allowed us to keep working with him to promote Extra Credits.)

2. This continued until June 2011, when James emailed us to alert us that he needed funds urgently. The request was partly for family matters and partly for Allison's surgery. He asked for our permission to raise funds through Kickstarter. We more than gave permission, we threw our weight into supporting it. Unfortunately, Kickstarter refused because they don't do charity. I then suggested James try RocketHub and RocketHub agreed. We again collaborated to make it a joint effort. Our agreement was that we would be compensated for the wholesale cost of the t-shirts and Publisher's Club, and that the funds would be used to save Extra Credits. I reasonably interpreted "save Extra Credits" to mean that anything beyond what was needed for Allison's surgery would be used on Extra Credits production. I also Pay-palled James as much money as we had available at that time.

3. After the RocketHub was enormously successful and James had decided to use the funds to create an indie publishing label rather than to "save Extra Credits", James decided he would no longer speak to us directly and instead assigned a "business development manager" to speak to us. James' new business development manager demanded that we assign all the IP of Extra Credits to James.

4. We indicated we would be happy to work out an IP transfer but that before we did that, we would like to make sure we got paid for the wholesale cost of the t-shirts and the Publisher's Club memberships, and that we would like to see the Extra Credits RocketHub money used to create more Extra Credits. We did NOT ask that James send us $9,500 - we said he should use $9,500 to create more episodes of the show that the money was supposed to be used to save.

5. James' business development manager at that time emailed me and told us that his position was now that we had no rights to the show, no deal, and that our entire contract was invalid. This was out of the blue as far as we were concerned. We had no understanding at this time of James' intent to use the "Save Extra Credits" money to start a publishing business.

6. At this point, Russ Pitts, our editor in chief, flew out to meet with James and his business development manager personally. They agreed that we would continue to work together; that we would transfer the IP to James in exchange for some fee to be negotiated; and that James would handle the EC t-shirts directly rather than through us. We agreed to swallow the cost of the Publisher's Club memberships, a few thousand dollars.

7. I then emailed James and his business development manager to explain that I wanted to get them paid as quickly as possible so that the back debt was not a sticking point in negotiations. I then emailed them again to say that I had talked to our Board and investors and that payment would come in about a week.

8. At this point, James had his lawyer send us an email stating that we were in breach and that unless we sent money more quickly than I had just stated we'd be able to send it, that James was terminating his relationship with us. I presume that James thought we were playing games with him, although we were not.

9. We went ahead and mailed James the money we got from our investors the next week as we had promised. James' lawyer nevertheless sent us an email indicating they intended to terminate our agreement.

10. Finally, I should add that as of last week, we had paid James over $14,000 of the $20,000 we owed him, and that as of today, our company has mailed James all payments he is owed.
I have all of this documented extensively in email. James is simply in error if he believes we have ever lied to him or any of his staff. We are prepared to defend ourselves against future defamation in a court of law.

Cordial regards,
Alexander Macris


At least we know they're paying Yahtzee, because how fucking stupid would they have to be?
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Escapist doesn't pay talent, decides medical donations are theirs too. by The Happiness Engine 08/12/2011, 12:18pm PDT NEW
    Extra Credits is fucking awful. NT by Worm 08/12/2011, 12:34pm PDT NEW
    The Escapist's side of the story makes them sound like even bigger pricks. by Jerry Whorebach 08/12/2011, 2:35pm PDT NEW
        Re: The Escapist's side of the story makes them sound like even bigger pricks. by Souffle of Pain 08/12/2011, 5:11pm PDT NEW
        TL;DR: Our side of the story is that we finally paid a guy what we owed him. NT by AND WE GET NO THANKS FOR IT!!! 08/13/2011, 5:32am PDT NEW
    They were paid 14k!? Were OWED 20k for that crap!?! NT by Roop 08/12/2011, 10:24pm PDT NEW
        You do the art and I'll have the horrible voice. NT by we're gonna be multi-thousandnaires 08/12/2011, 11:34pm PDT NEW
            Kick ass! I can stop rooting for butts in the ashtrays! NT by Roop 08/13/2011, 7:57pm PDT NEW
    A guy bought the Escapist by JOE THE MONEY MAN 07/26/2018, 7:33pm PDT NEW
        So much political intrigue with so many assholes, all for hosting Yahtzee videos NT by Roop 07/27/2018, 7:01am PDT NEW
        He banned any and all discussion of Gamer Gate by Kenji Carter 08/09/2018, 8:48pm PDT NEW
        He is doing a great job by A Different Kind of Mysterio 02/07/2019, 6:43pm PST NEW
            These guys don't fucking get it. by elephant 02/07/2019, 7:12pm PST NEW
    How is The Escapist doing these days? by Not Great, Bob! 02/12/2019, 2:52pm PST NEW
        Holy fucking shit NT by Vested Id 02/12/2019, 4:41pm PST NEW
            This is like that Onion story where Pres. Ford yields power to the Vietcong by Vested Id 02/12/2019, 5:16pm PST NEW
                "Help, trying to cuck myself into orbit" NT by "I noah guy" 02/12/2019, 5:26pm PST NEW
        'cept Paul fails at preventing his "terrible purpose" becoming worse than Hitler NT by Mischief Maker 02/12/2019, 4:59pm PST NEW
            very observant of you NT by Contrapoints 02/13/2019, 11:05am PST NEW
        update: stepped on another rake by Not Great, Bob! 03/05/2019, 5:05pm PST NEW
            I have no idea what point you are making. Explain plz NT by Eury 03/05/2019, 6:27pm PST NEW
                You want me to explain why posting a complete retraction of an article under by threat of litigation is bad? 03/05/2019, 6:56pm PST NEW
                    None of that was clear from what you posted. NT by Eury 03/05/2019, 8:58pm PST NEW
                        I'll admit, you have to read the image text so I apologize by You lazy fucking faggot 03/05/2019, 10:14pm PST NEW
                            Edgy. NT by Mysterio 03/06/2019, 6:43am PST NEW
                            It was really small text. by Eury 03/06/2019, 6:51am PST NEW
                                fag NT by Not Great, Bob! 03/06/2019, 10:52am PST NEW
                                    Just screaming obscenities into the void. by Mysterio Lollerson 03/06/2019, 12:33pm PST NEW
                                        Most online politics is masturbation, not communication by blackwater 03/07/2019, 10:08am PST NEW
                                            Yea. You gonna take that, Bob? NT by Eury 03/07/2019, 12:27pm PST NEW
                                            sniffing each others farts NT by mmmm yes indeed (smokes oak pipe) 03/07/2019, 1:41pm PST NEW
 
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