Re: bitch are you for realby ndd 09/25/2011, 5:47pm PDT
Mischief Maker wrote:
Rev. Vag wrote:
I just decided what I'll get my grad degree in. I'm gonna be a spiritual advisor! I may have to deal with a bunch of imaginary superstitious horseshit to get the degree, but I think once I've paid my dues it'll be fun to boss gullible people around. AND I'll have more POWER than a stupid law degree would give me! Now, which religion will I choose? Well I definitely don't want a religion with a God that has an omnipresent penis, that's just icky. Hmm, eenie meenie miney moe...
Devil's Advocator wrote:
If you become a preacher for a religion you clearly don't believe in, you're a con-artist bilking people at their most emotionally vulnerable. That's morally reprehensible no matter what you believe in.
PS. I think you have completely overestimated the power money and prestige lavished on Unitarian ministers.
Rev. Vag wrote:
I wasn't planning on getting THAT rich and powerful!
(You only need to watch until 1:41)
Seeing through evasive communication is my BUSINESS, Zseni! I'm less insulted by the "ability to build" comment and more insulted that you think you can shake me with a nakedly obvious scope-shift like that. Stop being a girl and learn to take constructive criticism like a Woman.
You didn't say you wanted to be a social worker, or a therapist, or a life coach, you said you wanted to act as the earthly representative for God on Earth for an unsuspecting flock of suckers. This goes beyond advice, you're telling people what to do, what to say, what to think and that your words are commandments that come from an all powerful omniscient being. How is it I'm an atheist and I have a better appreciation of the heavy responsibility that goes with preaching than you do? You approach it as glibly as if you decided to open a cupcake shop.
Now I know you're getting your hackles up, but your anger is misplaced. Me telling you that you can't pull off this racket, however modest your financial goals, is a compliment. If I said, "Oh yeah, you could totally tell hundreds of people that if they let you skim 10% off their earnings for the rest of their lives, you'll arrange for them to get a big mansion in the sky, without even flinching," I'd be calling you a horribly evil manipulative bitch.
This world is going to shit because it's filled with people playing their part in destructive rackets for no other reason than, "well if I don't do it somebody else will, and they might be even more evil than me in the execution." You wanted my advice and I say there's plenty of other jobs out there that involve giving out constructive advice that makes a positive impact on people's lives.
Lawyers, for instance.
I think you're making some assumptions about religion that are justified in the sense of "you're listening to the people shouting the loudest," but that's an incurious path to take.
You approach it as glibly as if you decided to open a cupcake shop.
I've been writing sermons since I was 17.
It's not glib so much as a ready flow into an area I never realized was available. I made a few stabs at its environs, but always with the idea that I wasn't really allowed to believe anything or lead anyone. As it turns out, neither of these assumptions are true.
This world is going to shit because it's filled with people playing their part in destructive rackets for no other reason than, "well if I don't do it somebody else will, and they might be even more evil than me in the execution."
I'm not sure if you lack the imagination or the courage to believe in the idea of a morality outside of marketing and racketeering. But this has always been a difference between us. Anyway I'd turn my statement of faith over to you, but I'm not sure you'd understand it. Your arguments seem to stem mainly from a disbelief that I could have any religious sentiment to speak of. Therefore this is all some sort of complicated hustle.