Forum Overview :: Devil May Cry 3
 
Review -Point by point for easy rebuttal- by Mischief Maker 03/11/2005, 6:57pm PST
IN A NUTSHELL:

An improvement over every game in the DMC/NG subgenre in every important way. This does not mean, necessarily, that it's jettisoned all the bad stuff.

AWESOMENESS FACTOR:

One of your weapons is an oversized electric guitar and you kill demons with it by rocking them to death!

ENEMIES:

Instead of puppets and mimes and other retarded things the japanese are afraid of, these enemies really do look demonic. They attack quickly and in large groups like NG enemies and will fuck you up in short order if you're not constantly moving and attacking. Unlike NG enemies (two basic fighting styles repeated over and over again with different slightly different skins each level,) each has its own unique fighting style. One negative is that about half the early enemies bleed sand. I guess they did this so their bodies could disappear quickly and keep framerates steady.

CAMERA:

Better than the horrible Ninja Gaiden camera, a small step up from DMC1's camera. It will try to get whatever enemy you've locked onto into view. You're never going to be able to see all the enemies in the room at the same time. Luckily, if an enemy has a long range attack that can hit you from offscreen, they'll let out a tell-tale battle cry right before they launch it. Still by no means perfect.

BOSSES:

My favorite innovation from DMC1 was boss battles that rewarded aggressive fighting instead of the traditional dodging wildly until the boss reveals his hidden weak spot for a moment. Watch that fireball EXPLODE IN YOUR FUCKING MOUF, Phantom! Bosses in this game are huge, mean, bleed in gooshing jets, and still reward aggression, but will constantly fuck with your attack by changing around their pattern or the timing of their attacks mid battle. You can keep your distance and peck away at them with pistols while dodging their constant attacks muttering, "oh dear... oh dear... oh dear..." and eventually kill a couple of the bosses, but who wants to play an over-the-top action game like that?

STYLE:

The style system adds a couple extra moves to your repetoire. At early levels the extra "style" moves are okay. But after collecting an ass load of orbs they level up and start getting increasingly useful and rediculous. Level 1 trickster gives you a limited wallrunning ability and a short dash that makes you invincible for a split second. Level 3 trickster lets you fly, dash and teleport all over the screen as an impossible-to-hit freakazoid. All the regular moves from DMC1 are still available to you no matter what your style.

WALLRUNNING:

Sadly, they dropped the ball on this one. There are no wallrunning-specific attacks and a lot of screens have bottomless chasms or piles of rubble for walls that you can't wallrun on. Ninja Gaiden still has the best wallrunning used in combat.

COMBOS:

In DMC, only certain moves would fill the combo gauge and would continue to fill it if repeated over and over again while other moves or a split-second break between hitting things would instantly send it back to zero. In NG, just hitting people consecutively would raise the combo level. In DMC3 you can use any attack you like to fill the combo meter, and the flashier ones fill it faster, but they will only fill it for a limited time until they get boring and start to drain it. To get SSS rated combos you need to constantly be using different attacks to keep things stylish. I really like this new system because while the game itself is a 3D over-the-top Double Dragon, when you get good you can start playing it like a Tony Hawk game, only instead of calling out tricks for you to pull off, the spectators are trying to kill you.

WEAPONS:

Sword, nunchucks, scimitars, electric guitar, kung-fu gauntlets, dual pistols, sawed-off shotgun, less-crappy version of nightmate-beta from DMC1, sniper rifle, and a rocket launcher with a bayonette. You can have two melee weapons and two guns equiped per level and can switch between them instantly to build up rediculous combos. While moves are still timing-based, like DMC1, and a lot of buyable abilities are shared between them, they still control differently. All the weapons and guns are pretty well balanced, so don't fret over which ones are worth powering up or not. In case you're wondering, you don't go into a FPS scope view with the sniper rifle, it's just a long range weapon with a low rate of fire that knocks enemies on their ass. Dante shoots it from the hip.

DIFFICULTY:

The basic enemies are harder and more varied than NG's, but this is mitigated by less frustrating bullshit from the camera. A good candidate for the hardest game on the PS2. Word of advice: once you hit level 3, make sure you always have at least 1 of these checkpoint yellow orbs on you. It is incredibly frustrating to fight your way through a long, puzzle-strewn level only to get killed by the boss at the end and have to fight through the whole thing AGAIN.

FILLER:

A few light puzzles. A couple jump puzzles. They suck and it would have been better to leave them out entirely, but at least they're not as prevalent as the ones in NG.

CUTSCENES/WHINY PREACHY FACTOR:

Almost nonexistent. A couple remarks about how it's important to kill family members who turn evil, but the rest are rediculous bullet-time action scenes and sinister monolouges.

OVERALL:

If you like this sub-genre, this game's the best of the bunch at the moment. If either DMC1 or Ninja Gaiden were too tough for you you'll haaaaaaate this game.
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Review -Point by point for easy rebuttal- by Mischief Maker 03/11/2005, 6:57pm PST
    My only question. by Worm 03/12/2005, 7:06pm PST
        Re: My only question. by Mischief Maker 03/12/2005, 7:29pm PST
            Blockbuster : ( by Worm 03/12/2005, 10:12pm PST
                Re: Blockbuster : ( by FABIO 03/12/2005, 10:17pm PST
                    Re: Blockbuster : ( by Worm 03/12/2005, 10:27pm PST
                    Re: Blockbuster : ( by Creexul :( 03/12/2005, 10:28pm PST
                    Re: Blockbuster : ( by martini 03/13/2005, 3:05am PST
                    What pisses me off by Mischief Maker 03/13/2005, 11:26am PST
                Why don't you buy it, faggot? NT by Quentin Beck 03/13/2005, 12:53am PST
                    forty bux or fitty? by Worm 03/13/2005, 1:33am PST
                        Re: forty bux or fitty? by Souffle of Pain 03/13/2005, 1:44am PST
                            GEE, THANKS MISTER. DO YOU WANT A PAPER OR NOT? NT by Worm 03/13/2005, 1:58am PST
                                I'll take a subscription to "Grit," kiddo. NT by Souffle of Pain 03/13/2005, 2:41am PST
                                    4,999 more and he gets the 2-man inflatable river raft. NT by Bill Dungsroman 03/13/2005, 12:34pm PST
                                        Fuck that! 9,999 more and I get the real live pony! NT by Worm 03/13/2005, 12:53pm PST
                                            Ponies. o_0 NT by Worm 03/13/2005, 1:00pm PST
    Re: Review -Point by point for easy rebuttal- by FABIO 03/15/2005, 9:10pm PST
    ICJ deemed this unworthy of frontpage treatment :( NT by Mischief Maker 03/20/2005, 8:54am PST
        maybe if it were in the REVIEWS forum? NT by FABIO 03/20/2005, 5:03pm PST
        Re: ICJ deemed this unworthy of frontpage treatment :( by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/12/2006, 8:02pm PST
            Dammit by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/12/2006, 8:03pm PST
                Here it is. by Mischief Maker 03/13/2006, 5:53pm PST
    Re: Review -Point by point for easy rebuttal- by Lizard_King 03/12/2006, 7:35pm PST
        Re: Review -Point by point for easy rebuttal- by Fullofkittens 03/12/2006, 7:58pm PST
            Re: Review -Point by point for easy rebuttal- by Lizard_King 03/12/2006, 8:48pm PST
                Re: Review -Point by point for easy rebuttal- by Fullofkittens 03/13/2006, 6:41am PST
                    Re: Review -Point by point for easy rebuttal- by Lizard_King 03/17/2006, 9:11pm PST
        Re: Review -Point by point for easy rebuttal- by Flavio 03/13/2006, 1:18am PST
            well that was a mess by Flavio 03/13/2006, 1:21am PST
        Re: Review -Point by point for easy rebuttal- by Mischief Maker 03/13/2006, 5:50pm PST
            The 2nd Picture is Eddie murphy from "Delerious" and "Raw" NT by Mischief Maker 03/13/2006, 6:00pm PST
            Re: Review -Point by point for easy rebuttal- by Flavio 03/13/2006, 6:08pm PST
                Re: Review -Point by point for easy rebuttal- by Lizard_King 03/17/2006, 9:08pm PST
                    You have the wrong hobby by motherfuckerfoodeater 03/18/2006, 1:52am PST
                    Did you play the same game? by Flavio 03/18/2006, 2:44am PST
                        I should've been the one to fill your dark soul with LIGHT!!! NT by MM 03/18/2006, 5:25pm PST
                        Re: Did you play the same game? by Lizard_King 03/19/2006, 11:33am PST
                            To answer your first question by Mischief Maker 03/20/2006, 4:10pm PST
                                Re: To answer your first question by Lizard_King 03/20/2006, 10:06pm PST
    Re: Review -Point by point for easy rebuttal- by motherfuckerfoodeater 03/14/2006, 10:56pm PST
    A near point-form whoreview by mark 03/18/2006, 12:57pm PST
        Re: A near point-form whoreview by Flavio 03/18/2006, 3:34pm PST
            !!! by mark 03/20/2006, 11:35pm PST
        Re: A near point-form whoreview by MM 03/18/2006, 5:38pm PST
 
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