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Re: Just in case you missed it by ndd 01/04/2012, 1:32am PST
Lorini wrote:

"I guess my biggest issue is thread crapping, which is why I spend more time on somethingawful.com where thread crapping is not permitted."


i was going to ask what "thread crapping" was but then i looked it up using the internet.

no punchline here except in years of internet, like usenet-ass internet, hearing about how uncle cranky was going to open his own website old-ass internet, still remember most of the names of the authors from suck.com universe of oldness-ass internet, internet so old, hard, lame, and gay it got curated by the rock and roll hall of fame as a cast of liberace's dick

i have never heard the term "thread crapping" before

it is every bit as alien to ljrp and lj fandom as it is to caltrops, btw. this is not because threads never get derailed, and it's not because there's never a problem with threads getting regularly derailed. no, the difference seems to be the location of the crime.

i propose that in forums with no conception of "thread crapping", derailing is a crime against a person or people - it is a dick move that upsets specific individuals. in forums where thread crapping is a thing, derailing is considered a crime against the forum, perhaps even the "system" by which these dicks agree to pal around with each other.

Therefore we would expect to see no conception of thread crapping in forums where there are no cops at all (caltrops) or the cops are weak (ljrp, where the "cops" are just peers with long memories, who will shit-talk you endlessly, and game moderators (most of the action happens outside of games.))

We would expect to see "thread crapping" as an important idea in forums where there are active cops and, consequently, an expectation on the part of non-cops that
1) their own behavior is worthy of cop defense, and
2) failure to abide by the rules must result in a lower quality of forum (why else would you need cops?)

in short, the idea of "thread crapping" is a crime created by the existence of a mechanism which is supposed to punish it. everyone else just calls it "derailing" and leaves it at that, or gets trolled by it, whatever.

i feel a secondary result of this hypothesis is that the idea of thread crapping pushes a layer of personal responsibility off the shoulders of the complainant. bitching about thread crappers and thread crapping turns a personal problem into a general one shared by all members of the system - who, see above, will clearly suffer if this nuisance is allowed to persist. someone who is merely derailed by a derailer would probably just have to deal with the matter himself.

tldr tldr i think it is no coincidence that the term comes off as petulant
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        Re: Tom Chick Returns, Vows to Carry Out Hit List of Bannings by fgpckt 12/27/2011, 3:15am PST NEW
            Welp, there we go. by fgpckt 01/03/2012, 12:36pm PST NEW
                "infraction system" lol by Fullofkitttens 01/03/2012, 1:25pm PST NEW
                    Look at jerri blank, banning deputy, advising a guy to lay low for a while! by Fussbett 01/03/2012, 10:48pm PST NEW
                        This is great by Souffle of Pain 01/03/2012, 11:13pm PST NEW
                Re: Welp, there we go. by Mysterio Hive Mind 01/03/2012, 3:48pm PST NEW
                    Just in case you missed it by Tom Chick 01/03/2012, 8:51pm PST NEW
                        Re: Just in case you missed it by Lorini 01/03/2012, 9:53pm PST NEW
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                                Re: Just in case you missed it by Ice Cream Jonsey 01/04/2012, 7:38am PST NEW
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                                    SA is horrible for many reasons by skip 01/06/2012, 3:39pm PST NEW
                                        Re: SA is horrible for many reasons by jeep 01/06/2012, 6:44pm PST NEW
                                Re: Just in case you missed it by Mysterio 01/04/2012, 8:13am PST NEW
                                    Re: Just in case you missed it by ndd 01/04/2012, 8:26am PST NEW
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                                            Re: Just in case you missed it by ndd 01/04/2012, 8:47am PST NEW
                                                Re: Just in case you missed it by Shredder 01/04/2012, 11:48am PST NEW
                                                    Shredder, you idiot by Mysterio Hive Mind 01/04/2012, 11:48am PST NEW
                                    What part of "tldr" didn't you understand? NT by Jerry Whorebach 01/04/2012, 9:34am PST NEW
                                Conversations fork. Threaded discussion is the only kind that matters NT by Entropy Stew 01/04/2012, 10:54am PST NEW
                                    didn't even think of that. thread crapping as an architecture problem masqueradi by ndd 01/04/2012, 11:10am PST NEW
                                        Re: didn't even think of that. thread crapping as an architecture problem masqui by laudablepuss 01/04/2012, 1:20pm PST NEW
                                            well now you know NT by ndd 01/04/2012, 2:47pm PST NEW
                                        Re: didn't even think of that. by jeep 01/06/2012, 6:56pm PST NEW
                                    Concur by N 01/04/2012, 6:14pm PST NEW
                                        A lot of forum software seems to shit up after X number of active threads by Entropy Stew 01/04/2012, 9:57pm PST NEW
                                small note by jeep 01/06/2012, 6:55pm PST NEW
                The "you're in my house!" analogy is the dumbest thing ever. NT by Joe Chill 01/03/2012, 6:50pm PST NEW
                    OK, thanks Joe Chill NT by asshole 01/03/2012, 7:06pm PST NEW
                    And THEN he says NO! Can you IMAGINE???? NT by laudablepuss 01/03/2012, 10:34pm PST NEW
                    Fuck YOU. NT by Thomas Wayne 01/04/2012, 10:10am PST NEW
    Re: Tom Chick Returns, Vows to Carry Out Hit List of Bannings by Arbit 01/05/2012, 4:45pm PST NEW
        Re: Tom Chick Returns, Vows to Carry Out Hit List of Bannings by Mysterio 01/05/2012, 8:04pm PST NEW
            Upon thinking some more by Arbit 01/09/2012, 2:19pm PST NEW
        Thanks by Lizard_King 01/07/2012, 7:04pm PST NEW
    Lum has a post about this by jeep 01/08/2012, 10:52am PST NEW
        Lum starts Qt3 refugee camp! by Qt3 Reporter 01/08/2012, 2:33pm PST NEW
            This was a good write-up of what Tom must be thinking. by A FRIEND 01/08/2012, 2:35pm PST NEW
                ha ha by fabio 01/09/2012, 6:06pm PST NEW
            wtf is a yenta thread by jeep 01/08/2012, 8:00pm PST NEW
                Re: wtf is a yenta thread by Souffle of Pain 01/08/2012, 8:08pm PST NEW
                    I bet it's a hilarious thing about gamerdads or moms or whatever horseshit NT by jeep 01/09/2012, 5:14pm PST NEW
                Are you also too cool to Google to word yenta? NT by Ask Jeeves it? 01/08/2012, 8:50pm PST NEW
                    i'm not typing "yenta" into google. jesus by Souffle of Pain 01/08/2012, 9:25pm PST NEW
                        Sir you sir, sir you take that back sir NT by 'Them', who do you mean 'them' 01/08/2012, 10:13pm PST NEW
                        Your continued ignorance will surely show them!!! NT by rrrrgh 01/08/2012, 11:25pm PST NEW
                    My mental image of a bunch of Jews dancing is better than the real meaning can p NT by Entropy Stew 01/09/2012, 12:30am PST NEW
                    motherfucker I don't need to be looking at whatever anime thing that word is by jeep 01/09/2012, 5:19pm PST NEW
                        You've invested more effort into screaming about how you don't care by Arbit 01/10/2012, 10:01am PST NEW
        There's other new and shitty forums as well. by Souffle of Pain 01/08/2012, 3:23pm PST NEW
            Caltrops' domain name should be permanently changed to NT by WeToldYouSo.com 01/08/2012, 7:26pm PST NEW
            Re: There's other new and shitty forums as well. by jeep 01/08/2012, 7:52pm PST NEW
            Re: There's other new and shitty forums as well. by A FRIEND 01/08/2012, 9:51pm PST NEW
    Time to whip out your wallets, everyone! by Arbit 01/09/2012, 2:17pm PST NEW
        caltrops should also do the paypal thing by jeep 01/09/2012, 5:24pm PST NEW
            of course you would say this jeep, you're overpaid and don't have a mortgage NT by jeep 01/09/2012, 5:24pm PST NEW
            If ICJ wants some donations to pay for costs I'd pony up. by Fullofkittens 01/09/2012, 5:41pm PST NEW
                well we're small enough that this model works by jeep 01/09/2012, 6:31pm PST NEW
                    The genius of Caltrops is that those people would never post here. by Fullofkittens 01/09/2012, 8:21pm PST NEW
                i tried this once by ndd 01/09/2012, 7:31pm PST NEW
                    5% of every dragon statue Binro sells goes towards Caltrops upkeep NT by Entropy Stew 01/09/2012, 10:14pm PST NEW
                        Dead boyfriend of coworker life insurance policy NT by fabio 01/10/2012, 8:59am PST NEW
            The Financial State of Caltrops by Ice Cream Jonsey 01/10/2012, 10:51am PST NEW
                That's a funny post but, I hope, unduly harsh on Ray!. NT by Gutsby 01/10/2012, 11:10am PST NEW
                    On Ray? Oh no! Not my intent! by Ice Cream Jonsey 01/10/2012, 12:23pm PST NEW
                        I think it's a Jhoh/Sassy joke? NT by But he mixed up Jsoh and Jhoh? 01/10/2012, 12:33pm PST NEW
                            Hmm. NT by Gutsby 01/10/2012, 12:47pm PST NEW
                                We're getting trolled by two men nowhere near this thread. NT by A FRIEND 01/10/2012, 2:21pm PST NEW
                                    Ha ha ha NT by Last 01/10/2012, 3:18pm PST NEW
                            whatever happened to her? I wondered off at about by Oom Shnibble 04/05/2012, 3:57am PDT NEW
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        I guess Athyrn hasn't seen Aliens. NT by Eurotrash 03/30/2012, 10:24pm PDT NEW
            Forget the part where Ripley uses her boobs to nurse the Alien Queen to death? NT by Mischief Maker 03/30/2012, 10:56pm PDT NEW
            Does my ass count in Alien? NT by Ripley 03/31/2012, 11:39am PDT NEW
                Re: Does my ass count in Alien? by This is Chris's Blood 03/31/2012, 1:12pm PDT NEW
        heh, Athryn NT by The "heh" guy 03/31/2012, 6:48pm PDT NEW
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