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http://www.mgtowforums.com/forums/mens-general-discussion/6758-japan-leads-way-sexless-love.html#post74917
This doesn't surprise me at all, from the late 1960s to the late 1980s Japan has had an obsessive and hyper conformist culture, people who have never lived in Japan for a lengthy period of time will never understand it. During those years of spectacular economic growth there came a price tag nobody really talked about. The extreme pressure for men to perform and compete in the social and corporate world is staggering compared to the West.
The educational system was equally has tough, 24x7 cram schools, exam schools and summer schools combined with high entry standards into the Japanese universities and then the corporations.
The average Japanese salarymen were expected to work 12-14 hour days almost 7 days a week, they were expected to socialize after work with their coworkers(team building) for anywhere from 2-4 hours! They got almost no sleep and worked themselves to exhaustion.
Japan is infamous for it's extraordinarily high suicide rate, especially among corporate workers. They even evolved accommodations to service such an inhuman level of productivity called capsule hotels.
When their economy fell into the tank in the mid 90s many of these "ants" found themselves unemployed and forgotten, the reward for their labor and time was a pink slip. The male children of many of these male corporate wageslaves saw the price their fathers paid and told themselves, "Why?" and they were right to do so, because Japan is still very feudal in many aspects of their society.
Discipline, duty and obedience were drilled into Japanese youth to a level not found in the West except for military boot camps.
You wonder why Japanese youth and anyone under 30 tends to be a bit weird and why they have a technologically advanced but screwed up culture, it's because they've literally burned out their younger generation. The Japanese focus on winning is legendary and they almost came to the point passing the US in gross economic productivity in the 80s.
These so called Herbivore men are in fact the product of this culture and they're rebelling for completely different reasons than their Western MGTOW counterparts. We MGTOWs in the West are a logical reaction to the misandry and militant hyper-feminism of our culture, the Japanese herbivores are a reaction to an ultra high pressure, extremely competitive society of corporate drones. They are not doing the boycott of women for the same reasons we are and they wouldn't understand the conflict we have with feminism, because Japanese feminism is of a completely different form then the militant western model.
Japan will pay a high price for this progressive rot, combined with a declining population(Japanese immigration is notoriously tough and they don't tolerate permanent immigrant enclaves, no Chinatowns/Koreatowns etc) and stagnant economic growth(for the past 15 years).
The US is facing something similar in terms of the end result, declining population(offset by massive illegal immigration and births in that immigrant population) and stagnating economic growth in the foreseeable future. MGTOWs and Herbivores are fellow travelers along the same road but for completely different reasons. |
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official red pill thread of caltrops by sdroa jists 10/23/2011, 7:32am PDT 
intervention by sdroa jists 10/23/2011, 7:38am PDT 
this is an extremely committed relationship between adults by sdroa jists 10/23/2011, 7:41am PDT 
women are like grenades: throw them away before they explode by sdroa jists 10/23/2011, 10:15pm PDT 
typical whore upset that whore behavior was exposed during whore convention by sdroa jists 10/31/2011, 2:25am PDT 
they're in love she's in love it's love can't you see the love love is all you n by sdroa jists 11/12/2011, 10:25am PST 
Why do you care about this, you piece of shit? NT by No woman will ever love you. 11/18/2011, 1:26pm PST 
Hmmm, answered my own NT by question, didn't I? 11/18/2011, 1:26pm PST 
1/4 American women take medication for a mental disorder by sdroa jists 11/18/2011, 12:13am PST 
divorced 3 days after nearly dying by sdroa jists 11/18/2011, 5:05am PST 
Was this trucker merried to Newt Gingrich? NT by Intentional Controversy Maker 11/18/2011, 10:18am PST 
Even worse, this evil ex-wife uploaded a video of the aftermath to youtube! by Mischief Maker 11/18/2011, 10:28am PST 
what could create LESS conflict than an office staffed with/run by women? by sdroa jists 11/22/2011, 8:02am PST 
Reading this thread is like watching Tommy Wiseau's "The Room" over and over and by Mischief Wronged Saintly Man 11/22/2011, 9:22am PST 
Re: official red pill thread of caltrops by motherfuckerfoodeater 11/23/2011, 11:09pm PST 
idiot woman wins lottery, spends all the money on stupid shit, is now broke by sdroa jists 11/24/2011, 3:09am PST 
Re: idiot woman wins lottery, spends all the money on stupid shit, is now broke by ndd 11/24/2011, 11:10am PST 
Elven deltoid. NT by Gutsby 11/24/2011, 11:39am PST 
elven degeneres NT by gruman 11/24/2011, 1:59pm PST 
His face really disturbs me :( NT by Worm 11/24/2011, 1:28pm PST 
What do your elf eyes see? NT by They're taking the hobbits to Iseng 11/26/2011, 10:42pm PST 
local red pill: sasy by sdroa jists 11/29/2011, 12:43am PST 
All these new internet buddies of yours are just clones of BDR. NT by Mischief Nice Guy 11/29/2011, 4:34am PST 
You really love pictures of beautiful men that much? by ndd 11/29/2011, 12:40pm PST 
single moms and nice guys by sdroa jists 11/29/2011, 1:25am PST 
Psh! She "doesn't like reading much." Not that I'm being judgmental. NT by Mischief Nice Guy 11/29/2011, 4:33am PST 
He also took NO joy in this happening or writing that or making it a lesson for by all women 11/29/2011, 6:26am PST 
Here's that post in youtube form by Mischief Nice Guy 11/29/2011, 4:35pm PST 
The Josh Cable Man!-ifesto by hahahahaha 11/29/2011, 6:18am PST 
One day he'll call up Jhoh and ask to be taken back. But Jhoh will say NO OFFENS NT by E, BUT YOU BLEW IT 11/29/2011, 6:24am PST 
That statement needs a O_O NT by WITTGENSTEIN 11/29/2011, 3:33pm PST 
Re: single moms and nice guys by Mysterio 11/29/2011, 10:18am PST 
Maybe you'd also like a little military action? by ndd 11/29/2011, 12:48pm PST 
Man, even his cheeks are ripped! by motherfuckerfoodeater 11/29/2011, 2:02pm PST 
Not gay! by ndd 11/29/2011, 2:09pm PST 
Today: discomfort abou how a man's cheeks make me feel. . . by motherfuckerfoodeater 11/29/2011, 8:20pm PST 
white knight brigade by sdroa jists 12/11/2011, 4:42pm PST 
Re: white knight brigade by motherfuckerfoodeater 12/11/2011, 6:53pm PST 
Isn't it just a sterotypical case of sour grapes? by The Happiness Engine 12/12/2011, 11:38am PST 
Re: Isn't it just a sterotypical case of sour grapes? by Mysterio 12/12/2011, 4:26pm PST 
Re: white knight brigade by ndd 12/11/2011, 10:13pm PST 
"Next episode, the Robozord Corps face off against........... Dark Triad" NT by Last 12/12/2011, 8:01am PST 
Re: white knight brigade by Arbit 12/12/2011, 9:00pm PST 
replace title character's name with any local female, sing as needed by sdroa jists 12/16/2011, 11:30pm PST 
human beings never sincerely say to each other "we need to talk" by sdroa jists 12/18/2011, 2:20pm PST 
Diagnosis: Pussy NT by Mischief Maker 12/18/2011, 6:11pm PST 
Josh Cable: A Man, Focused On His Career Right Now by hahahahaha 12/18/2011, 6:31pm PST 
railroading men with DV accusations by sdroa jists 12/18/2011, 2:46pm PST 
Re: railroading men with DV accusations by Mysterio Hive Mind 12/18/2011, 6:13pm PST 
I think his OKCupid profile isn't getting a lot of hits. NT by :( 12/18/2011, 7:23pm PST 
a close shave (that is still a horror show) by sdroa jists 01/01/2012, 2:54pm PST 
It is never about the money. NT by Mischief Maker 01/01/2012, 3:11pm PST 
It's about us. NT by FEELINGS 01/01/2012, 3:41pm PST 
Actually yes. by Mischief Maker 01/01/2012, 6:09pm PST 
This website is EXCELLENT, Josh! by hahahaha WELCOME OPPRESSED BROTHER 01/01/2012, 3:47pm PST 
PS: SOCIETY HAS FAILED ME NT by hahahahaha 01/01/2012, 3:48pm PST 
Re: a close shave (that is still a horror show) by ndd 01/01/2012, 9:03pm PST 
men have responsibilities that perhaps they should shrug by sdroa jists 01/02/2012, 12:36pm PST 
I also have a complaint about women. by Jerry Whorebach 01/02/2012, 1:46pm PST 
you deserve your cats by sdroa jists 01/02/2012, 12:38pm PST 
she's just being honest, I know it's a miracle by sdroa jists 01/02/2012, 12:41pm PST 
I reported you to DHS Michigan for welfare fraud NT by Merry Christmas, happy new year &c 01/02/2012, 4:02pm PST 
women need men more than etc whore tries to claim a lie as truth by sdroa jists 01/02/2012, 5:37pm PST 
related: You can’t see beauty if everything is sexualised. by sdroa jists 01/02/2012, 7:25pm PST 
I hope he was wearing his Klingon costume when he wrote that by Mischief Maker 01/02/2012, 7:33pm PST 
tried to do the right thing until he woke up in jail by sdroa jists 01/03/2012, 5:03pm PST 
How'd that happen??? by Mischief Maker 01/03/2012, 5:54pm PST 
I was writing a post on Caltrops and suddenly the quote tag was fucked up HTH? NT by Mischief Maker 01/03/2012, 5:55pm PST 
katy fucking perry still obsesses over alpha that turned her down by sdroa jists 01/04/2012, 8:30pm PST 
Good thing REAL men don't obsess over the one that got away NT by Sassy 01/06/2012, 8:37am PST 
this one can also apply to men (especially people here who hate me and joh) by sdroa jists 01/04/2012, 11:18pm PST 
Hahahahaha! by Mischief Maker 01/05/2012, 12:19am PST 
Re: Hahahahaha! by This is Chris's Blood 01/05/2012, 9:09am PST 
The cure for any disease is to tell the patient "stop doing that". NT by Medicine, SOLVED FOREVER 01/06/2012, 9:05am PST 
re by Mysterio 01/06/2012, 9:41am PST 
The cure for cancer is to stop any malignant growths through willpower. by Medicine, SOLVED FOREVER 01/06/2012, 10:49am PST 
You're being silly. by Mysterio 01/06/2012, 12:06pm PST 
Addiction is a genetic, physical problem in the brain. Not a high BAC. by Medicine, SOLVED FOREVER 01/06/2012, 12:45pm PST 
Re: Addiction is a genetic, physical problem in the brain. Not a high BAC. by Mysterio 01/06/2012, 1:02pm PST 
You read the wrong part. by motherfuckerfoodeater 01/06/2012, 1:23pm PST 
Oh well shit what do doctors know, you've got buddies. by Medicine, SOLVED FOREVER 01/06/2012, 1:39pm PST 
Before you get any more retarded, please answer this by laudablepuss 01/06/2012, 3:08pm PST 
As I understand it by Fullofkittens 01/06/2012, 4:21pm PST 
When will we wake up and return to blame-based medicine? (Ron Paul 2012) NT by Fussbett 01/08/2012, 3:18am PST 
The point about genetics... by Medicine, etc. 01/06/2012, 4:56pm PST 
eh it's a lot easier to just brush them off as weak willed subhumans though NT by Worm 01/06/2012, 5:43pm PST 
Re: The point about genetics... by Mysterio 01/06/2012, 6:28pm PST 
Re: The point about genetics... by Medicine, etc. 01/06/2012, 7:26pm PST 
So if I can stop at 4 beers can I begin to try heroin freely? NT by Worm 01/07/2012, 9:56am PST 
Does alcoholism test work for heroin by Wrom 01/07/2012, 6:51pm PST 
Time for anecdotal data! by Fussbett 01/07/2012, 12:29am PST 
Re: Time for anecdotal data! by Mysterio 01/07/2012, 8:59am PST 
Re: Time for anecdotal data! by Fussbett 01/08/2012, 3:13am PST 
Alcoholism = cancer NT by worst caltrops expert ever 01/06/2012, 7:14pm PST 
Norm Macdonald coveres this exact scenario in his special "Me Doing Standup" by Entropy Stew 01/06/2012, 9:25pm PST 
what ever happened to equality? by sdroa jists 01/06/2012, 11:09pm PST 
sponsored NT by 9gag.com 01/06/2012, 11:31pm PST 
Sorry Zseni, I... just... can't... stop myself! by Mischief Maker 01/06/2012, 11:57pm PST 
stupid desperate cunts are getting stupider, desperater by sdroa jists 01/09/2012, 6:52am PST 
Which one of you trolled this kid so hard he has to keep posting these? NT by Laurence Fishburne 01/09/2012, 6:58am PST 
That would be me. NT by MOOM 01/09/2012, 7:41am PST 
Japan leads the way in sexless love by sdroa jists 01/15/2012, 7:50pm PST 
B-b-but I thought Zseni's porn pix were supposed to stop you from posting these! NT by MM 01/16/2012, 5:13am PST 
be extremely careful when being involved with any female by sdroa jists 01/15/2012, 11:36pm PST 
If you decided to one day lose your virginity to a prostitute, would you make NT by him wear a woman's wig at least? 01/16/2012, 2:45am PST 
everything anyone needed to know about women in a single thread by sdroa jists 01/19/2012, 4:56am PST 
if women ceased to exist, debters prisons in america would be gone by sdroa jists 01/19/2012, 6:20pm PST 
equality is kinda inconvenient when people might die by sdroa jists 01/21/2012, 7:57pm PST 
white knights, the dumbest scum on earth by sdroa jists 01/22/2012, 6:46am PST 
women destroy innocence, men are forced to pick up the pieces by sdroa jists 01/24/2012, 4:59am PST 
Re: women destroy innocence, men are forced to pick up the pieces by Mischief Maker 01/24/2012, 6:06am PST 
Ctrl-H 'wife' with 'boss' and the story becomes about a beta pussy fucking BETA by BOSSMOTIONAL TAMPON loser 01/24/2012, 8:46am PST 
average shitty woman threatens to file false charges of assault over road rage by sdroa jists 01/26/2012, 5:18am PST 
msm notices "mancession" moves into outright lying by sdroa jists 01/29/2012, 1:17pm PST 
ALL RIGHJT LADIES DO MATH!...................................?.................! NT by serious thinkr 01/29/2012, 7:25pm PST 
men no longer mass beat wives during super bowl, they just sex-traffick them by sdroa jists 01/30/2012, 1:01am PST 
women are so good at empathy part 2: "murder my husband or I wont fuck you" by sdroa jists 02/02/2012, 7:15pm PST 
what's the follow up, the women who mewled? by sdroa jists 02/09/2012, 5:49am PST 
Dare to end up a bloated body floating down the Ganges. NT by Worm 02/09/2012, 9:10am PST 
they'd spend the night with Ed Gein if he agreed to be their Valentine by sdroa jists 02/14/2012, 10:24am PST 
"how this one day brings out women's neurotic tendencies." NT by Now THAT'S how you write a punchlin 02/14/2012, 10:47am PST 
Re: they'd spend the night with Ed Gein if he agreed to be their Valentine by Hans Clastorp 02/14/2012, 11:31am PST 
the token female on bering sea gold is an incompetent cunt by sdroa jists 02/17/2012, 3:36am PST 
women can't go their own way by sdroa jists 02/17/2012, 4:03pm PST 
Is it crazy to assume that most of the MGTOW men didn't have the option either? NT by Mysterio 02/17/2012, 4:48pm PST 
don't need to burn your own hand to find out fire is hot by sdroa jists 02/21/2012, 7:49am PST 
watch that show on mtv if you want a realistic look NT by gruman 02/21/2012, 7:54am PST 
slashdot has gotten clued into women's bullshit by sdroa jists 02/23/2012, 1:21pm PST 
Gosh, I guess you'd better not get married, then. NT by Huh, Josh? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA 02/23/2012, 5:43pm PST 
It's indefensible. by Brandon Flick 02/23/2012, 8:46pm PST 
what does any woman need with $1.5 billion? by sdroa jists 02/24/2012, 4:04am PST 
women are the most evil real life super villains by sdroa jists 02/24/2012, 4:32am PST 
“I’m not haaaaapy being trapped in marriage” before she gets married by sdroa jists 02/25/2012, 9:30am PST 
it is now illegal for a man to hold a baby, also women are stupid some more by sdroa jists 02/27/2012, 8:41pm PST 
That forum isn't even about women being evil. Just weak men bitching over wine. NT by Mischief Maker 02/27/2012, 8:54pm PST 
Scientific studies validate Men's Rights Movement claims by Arbit 03/09/2012, 3:30pm PST 
struck a nerve with the man haters, I know what that's like by sdroa jists 03/10/2012, 12:51pm PST 
how sick and stupid are women at this point? by sdroa jists 03/12/2012, 8:37am PDT 
Actually, Mediated Divorce IS like disassembling bolt-by-bolt! by Mischief Marketer 03/12/2012, 9:04am PDT 
women could use more shaming by sdroa jists 03/12/2012, 9:25am PDT 
Hey Josh, how did your last few dates go? NT by This is Chris's Blood 03/12/2012, 10:45am PDT 
Jhoh always pays :) NT by Ends in mutual JO session. :) 03/12/2012, 11:24am PDT 
Calling her out on her ad hominem fallacy by using an ignoratio elenchi fallacy! NT by Mischief Shai-hulud 03/13/2012, 12:07am PDT 
This is as good a place as any by Oom Shnibble 03/12/2012, 12:23pm PDT 
Re: This is as good a place as any by Mysterio 03/12/2012, 3:55pm PDT 
Re: This is as good a place as any by Mischief Marketer 03/12/2012, 11:13pm PDT 
think the cunts just want half? wrong, it's now up to 85% by sdroa jists 03/15/2012, 4:58pm PDT 
Most virgins fantasize about wild sex, Jsoh fantasizes about messy divorce. NT by Wrom 03/15/2012, 6:49pm PDT 
85% of the 50% Jhoh gives him, whaaaat is he a mathematician or a misogynist by Souffle of Pain 03/17/2012, 9:48am PDT 
splc does men a huge favor by sdroa jists 03/18/2012, 3:23am PDT 
Oh no, it's the Hooligans! Whatever will we do? What if they become Ruffians?!! NT by Mischief Scullywag 03/18/2012, 10:20am PDT 
romance now = misogyny by sdroa jists 03/18/2012, 3:44am PDT 
Stalkers? NT by Mischief Maker 03/20/2012, 6:29pm PDT 
new shaming language code update! ivory by sdroa jists 03/20/2012, 4:04pm PDT 
mastoring debating with women: the ban button by sdroa jists 03/22/2012, 11:04pm PDT 
If men weren't just as emotional, I'd be out of a job. Poker Faces. NT by Mischief Maker 03/23/2012, 8:30am PDT 
Also, we need a word for men like Jsoh who are "Master Debaters" against women. by Mischief Maker 03/23/2012, 8:40am PDT 
BOOOOO. Laziest possible joke. NT by Last 03/23/2012, 12:17pm PDT 
preemptive female ego preservation and that dumb cunt that can't do MPH by sdroa jists 03/23/2012, 5:14am PDT 
women are a stupid novelty toy box by sdroa jists 03/24/2012, 3:28am PDT 
So now girls can't call you faggot? What next? NT by Gutsby 03/25/2012, 3:33pm PDT 
Re: women are a stupid novelty toy box NT by Mysterio 01/26/2013, 10:33pm PST 
Trolling our own sister on twitter, plus bonus. by Claborsarls 04/05/2012, 11:29am PDT 
She actually sounds pretty interesting. -nt- NT by Oom Shnibble 04/05/2012, 12:01pm PDT 
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