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yeah but...effort by jeep 03/20/2012, 4:00pm PDT
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:

Of course it is, that's not what I want to talk about.

How does a site (in general) become friendlier towards women while still limiting (or, not having any) moderation?

it doesn't, you need moderation or you need intense self-selection: the regular posters would have to be willing to look at what the cables posted in zseni's forum and say "ironic misogyny is still misogyny." so I guess the other possibility is to have users who aren't pricks, but that's not really on the horizon here. I mean everyone kind of grew up in real life but this place lets them be internet jerks again so unless you have long-term plans for growth I don't see anything changing

I've linked naked pictures of erica campbell in here, maybe I've never been pleasant (or smarmy) enough to even qualify as an Internet Nice Guy, I've been almost as much part of the problem as anyone (except assholes posting mgtow shit to bully another poster). when it comes to internet gender shit on any site: trolling beta males have the numbers and the morale, and generally they also have the most to lose when someone moderates a forum in a moral way. it's not anonymity that protects them, btw. no democracy, consensus or anarchic process is going to lead to anything but what you got or worse. the larger internet and really the whole society is bent heavily in that direction (patriarchy or w/e you want to call it), the idea that people don't bring that with them to a web forum, or that you could resist it by just not putting any effort in is ridiculous

I hang out on other boards as well, I've seen the kind of place where everyone is treated well and people feel comfortable talking about the way you'd want from an ideal forum, but I've also seen the amount of effort it takes to maintain that, even for a big group of people who really want it, even with stakes as low as 'chatting about video games with steam br0s,' they're still paddling upriver, it's just way too much work

leaving other potential changes aside, you either moderate and pick a side or things continue the way you see them. if that sounds like a lot of thankless work, it is, so really why worry about it, put your effort into making more games or something

otoh the real problem is not enough quality front page content (ironically not the cables' fault there) to bring in a replacement population of forums denizens, and I have no idea how you'd change that because you'd still need sites linking to that content and...well that's like running a business then, isn't it? see if you had that bringing enough people posting on the forum to spare and had to work to fight spam, it would suddenly seem like less of a hassle to have that moderation, to use vbb instead of code out of a mysql book. it always seemed from here that you weren't really running this with any kind of plan and that's fine, a low-effort listening post for old friends is just fine
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Is Caltrops a piece of shit site to women? by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/20/2012, 10:50am PDT NEW
    How to have a site be interesting to women by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 03/20/2012, 11:11am PDT NEW
        in short, never be satisfied with the most obvious (correct) answer by Don Juan 03/20/2012, 11:23am PDT NEW
            LOL COSMO, RIGHT? NT by GUYS, HAVE YOU SEEN THIS MAGAZINE? 03/21/2012, 12:19am PDT NEW
        Or you could just pay them NT by Entropy Stew 03/20/2012, 11:28pm PDT NEW
            This is a pretty good answer to the real life quandary of the fairer sex! NT by Worm 03/21/2012, 3:19pm PDT NEW
    Don't be a videogame website. NT by Oom Shnibble 03/20/2012, 1:45pm PDT NEW
    Best way: have all of us leave, keep the purple background by laudablepuss 03/20/2012, 2:39pm PDT NEW
    Re: Is Caltrops a piece of shit site to women? by Roop 03/20/2012, 3:08pm PDT NEW
    yeah but...effort by jeep 03/20/2012, 4:00pm PDT NEW
        Re: yeah but...effort by Souffle of Pain 03/20/2012, 5:00pm PDT NEW
        Re: yeah but...effort by Mischief Maker 03/20/2012, 5:49pm PDT NEW
            Re: yeah but...effort by jeep 03/20/2012, 9:53pm PDT NEW
                Hey, asshole by Spanky 03/21/2012, 6:34am PDT NEW
                    who's joking? by jeep 03/21/2012, 9:22pm PDT NEW
        Re: yeah but...effort by Entropy Stew 03/20/2012, 11:24pm PDT NEW
    Some women like to laugh. We could try writing funnier posts. NT by Junior Analyst 03/20/2012, 4:11pm PDT NEW
        Fag NT by Senior Analyst 03/20/2012, 6:06pm PDT NEW
    Short answer: Pintrest. Long answer: Be more like NT by Pintrest. 03/20/2012, 6:32pm PDT NEW
    Why do you want more women on the site NT by Vested Id 03/20/2012, 9:27pm PDT NEW
        Because... by Oom Shnibble 03/22/2012, 2:06am PDT NEW
            and then there's Zseni NT by zing! 03/22/2012, 6:29am PDT NEW
                Yeah, but she is already here. by Oom Shnibble 03/22/2012, 9:27am PDT NEW
                    not anymore NT by jeep 03/23/2012, 11:15pm PDT NEW
                        For some reason we all come back. -nt- by Oom Shnibble 03/24/2012, 1:02pm PDT NEW
            WHAT? Why wasn't I informed? by laudablepuss 03/22/2012, 2:06pm PDT NEW
            Oom, are you looking at the wrong part? by Tansin A. Darcos (TDARCOS) 03/23/2012, 7:04am PDT NEW
                1.) You are a retard. 2.) It's not a cylinder. NT by 3.) Cylinders have a curve, retard. 03/23/2012, 7:08am PDT NEW
                there is no wrong part. by Oom Shnibble 03/23/2012, 8:50am PDT NEW
                    Jesus Christ, son. Have you ever been near a real woman? by Not Really, No Guy 03/23/2012, 9:33am PDT NEW
                        Well no wonder if he thinks the most attractive part of a woman is the cylinder. NT by CylinderMan69? 03/23/2012, 7:43pm PDT NEW
                    Re: there is no wrong part. by Roop 03/23/2012, 7:44pm PDT NEW
                        Re: there is no wrong part. by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/23/2012, 10:33pm PDT NEW
                            Re: there is no wrong part. by jeep 03/23/2012, 11:19pm PDT NEW
                            Re: there is no wrong part. by No not really guy 03/25/2012, 7:35pm PDT NEW
                                Re: there is no wrong part. by laudablepuss 03/26/2012, 11:57am PDT NEW
                                How about you team up with "Explains His Messages Guy" for a post or two NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 03/26/2012, 1:02pm PDT NEW
                        He is a bit like an alien life form by Oom Shnibble 03/24/2012, 2:08am PDT NEW
    Isn't it a piece of shit site to everyone? by Oom Shnibble 03/22/2012, 9:38am PDT NEW
    don't be a video game website o wait someone already said that by sdroa jists 03/23/2012, 3:36am PDT NEW
        Someone has some serious mommy issues -nt- by Oom Shnibble 03/23/2012, 4:50am PDT NEW
            Mommy/Daddy/Brother issues NT by welfare/diet issues 03/24/2012, 3:45am PDT NEW
                Nice work! Might I suggest going with "Eat Shit!" next? by The Final Word 03/24/2012, 8:38am PDT NEW
 
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