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by Arbit 05/26/2013, 10:13pm PDT |
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Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:
After the franchise focuses for all previous games on how the protagonist starts out as everyman and then gets involved in pretty serious shit, Fallout 3 has the seriousness immediately jump to the top of the Richter scale and New Vegas feels too thin to properly get going in terms of drama. ICJ put it better than I did.
I've thought a lot about New Vegas in the last few months. One of the conclusions I've come to is that the game had every opportunity to make me care about what it was selling early, but was such a slave to the silent protagonist that it became dumb and pointless. Someone was trying to kill my PC and left her in the desert. I still maintain that moving to Oshkosh would be the best option, but I'm all for revenge flicks. So if she is going to get revenge, the assholes at Obsidian have to make the PC talk. It's hilarious to me that it's 2013 and we're still doing this many silent protagonists. I don't need voice acting, but if you expect me to give a shit about anyone's problem in New Vegas and don't make the PC talk then you have no idea what you're doing. You're just making empty Fedex quests in an empty world for me to pick from.
ICJ
I've assumed that devs do them because it's more immersive. By not having the PC talk, there's no chance that the PC will say something that the player doesn't agree with, right? But I don't stand around mute while people around me make important decisions that directly affect me in real life either. And since this is fantasy, I'd much rather have my PC telling important and powerful people to blow it out their asshole like I didn't get to do at work.
I think HL2 really made me hate silent protagonists. There was a specific incidence where if Gordon had opened his trap he could have stopped someone from making a bad decision (I don't remember the specific plot point, unfortunately). Throughout the game, Alex makes wink wink nudge nudge jokes around how Gordon is the strong silent type. Ha ha, that sort of self depreciating humor only works if you're not poking fun at a flaw that makes me hate your game. |
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That was awesome, Worm. Can we please have a Mass Effect 4 vid? NT by WITTGENSTEIN 05/19/2013, 9:50am PDT 
whoa there are things happening on the front page? by lurker 05/19/2013, 11:24am PDT 
Yeah, I'm at a wits end what to do next. by Worm 05/19/2013, 1:45pm PDT 
'Go play Geneforge.' I'm amazed. Good video, want to do Fallout 4 next? by fucking newbie 05/21/2013, 7:51am PDT 
Honestly I liked Fallout 3 quite a bit! by Worm 05/22/2013, 10:10am PDT 
Re: Honestly I liked Fallout 3 quite a bit! by The Warezwolf 05/22/2013, 10:16am PDT 
I'm not remembering too many awesome things in New Vegas itself. NT by fucking newbie 05/25/2013, 12:03am PDT 
Re: Honestly I liked Fallout 3 quite a bit! by laudablepuss 05/22/2013, 12:32pm PDT 
It kind of depends what you came to the table expecting. by fucking newbie 05/25/2013, 12:13am PDT 
I think I confused you with ICJ, who said the quests all seemed trivial or somet by fucking newbie 05/25/2013, 12:31am PDT 
I think I confused you with ICJ, who said the quests all seemed trivial or somet by Ice Cream Jonsey 05/25/2013, 3:37pm PDT 
Why do you think it is that even with good dialogue minus voice acting, you by fucking newbie 05/25/2013, 4:09pm PDT 
Re: Why do you think it is that even with good dialogue minus voice acting, you by Ice Cream Jonsey 05/26/2013, 12:59pm PDT 
Why are silent protagonists the default? by Arbit 05/26/2013, 10:13pm PDT 
OTOH, if I were a silent protagonist I couldn't have fucked those quotes up so b NT by Arbit 05/26/2013, 10:15pm PDT 
Enjoyable NT by Roop 05/21/2013, 12:14am PDT 
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