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| Partial log. by Creexul :( 03/30/2005, 3:41pm PST | ||||
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Jhoh has joined the chat. [Joe_Lieberman] American Dream, do you have a question? [theswitch] Im am not speaking to anyone [american_dream] Yes [ToutSuite] I have a question [Erik_Rutins] Everyone, please give Joe a chance to move through the list in an orderly fashion. Everyone will get a chance to speak. [hezron] jhoh!!! [american_dream] Thor, why is theswitch Pming me? [Jenigma] Hello, everyone. I have many interesting and exciting questions abou the game Supremacy: The Four Paths to Powers. [Joe_Lieberman] If you type /ignore theswitch you can ignore him kingprawn has joined the chat. [american_dream] Ok. [veronica] I'm going to ignore the shit out of some of you people. [american_dream] Thor, can I play this game on a Dell? [kingprawn] hey thor [athodyd] is there anything i can type that will bring more threatening PM's to me [ThorBlackHammer] but don't type /ignore ThorBlackHammer or else this chat will be for naught [ToutSuite] I'd like to note that I said I had a question [Erik_Rutins] The chat is in progress, please wait to be called on by Joe. Keep the side chatter down please. [ToutSuite] hold the side chatter, people. Light on the mayo. [veronica] \ignore ToutSuite [Jenigma] Is this like Yahoo's interview chats, where the interviewed person can only see certain questions, which are answered in the order they are received? [hezron] \ignore Joe_Lieberman [hezron] whoops [american_dream] Please, i was called on and not replied to, and i believe it is due to overmoderation, can I be answered without being interrupted or distracted by discipline issues? [athodyd] pesky backslash [Joe_Lieberman] Ok, Athodyd, any questions? [kingprawn] this is a Chatroom Gaiden! [kingprawn] that's japanese for sidestory! [ThorBlackHammer] gaiden means side story in japanese language talk [ThorBlackHammer] JINX [kingprawn] :( [american_dream] Joe, I believe I was skipped [Joe_Lieberman] Ok, I am now enforcing this chat [Jenigma] I like the chats where we are allowed to chat! [Joe_Lieberman] Next person to talk out of turn gets kicked [Jenigma] That is just a personal preference. [athodyd] question one: how did you get to the idea behind supremacy [Joe_Lieberman] Please wait until you are called on, effective now. [athodyd] question two: why wont anyone send me threatening pm's [ThorBlackHammer] Thank you, Athodyd! I will answer your questions in order [ToutSuite] how do we let you know we have a question if we can't talk? toutsuite has left the chat. [Joe_Lieberman] Im very serious [Erik_Rutins] You will be called on in name order according to the side bar list. [veronica] I'm ready. veronica has left the chat. [ThorBlackHammer] 1) The idea for Supremacy came mostly from Nik Mikros, Black Hammer's lead designer. He has four fingers (and a thumb) on one of his hands and thus has always been captivated by the number four Ghost_of_ToutSuite has joined the chat. [ThorBlackHammer] We were kicking around ideas for a strategy game because we were getting sick of doing work-for-hire and wanted to produce our own ideas [Jenigma] I like thor's answer. [athodyd] to what extent do fingers enter into the gameplay? also enter into me? [ThorBlackHammer] I am not finished with it! [ThorBlackHammer] I will type DONE when i am done answering (please note that that DONE does not count as a done) [hezron] does that one count? [american_dream] i'm sorry but i am being PMed by theswitch and he is trying to convince me to not buy this game, which is counterproductive to the goal of this caht american_dream has left the chat. [ThorBlackHammer] so the BHG staff met and pitched various concepts to hang a strategy game on (mine was about vampires) and ultimately developed the space/land scenario that would be the base of Supremacy. Then we revised and polished it a million times TheraphosaBlondi has left the chat. siamese_dream has joined the chat. [ThorBlackHammer] Nik had some ideas that were a little out there, like no traditional narrative or story segments and making it possible for every race to be either the player or the player's enemy, and it was a challenge to make those work, but we did it. [ThorBlackHammer] DONE [Jenigma] I hope I get to ask next! [hezron] what about athodyd's second question! [Joe_Lieberman] Now we are getting somewhere :-) [Joe_Lieberman] Try to limit yourself to one question at a time :-) [ThorBlackHammer] As for question 2, I think if you had a more attractive screen name it would be more likely for you to recieve threatening PMs form theswitch [hezron] :-( [Jenigma] okay :-) [Erik_Rutins] You will be called on in name order, according to the sidebar list. [Jenigma] Hitler :-) [athodyd] did i mention i was sultry and eighteen siamese_dream has left the chat. [athodyd] and sultry [Joe_Lieberman] ber88, any questions? [ber88] Why there is no pixel shader and bump mapping? [Joe_Lieberman] whoa, technical :-) [hezron] WHOA! aaron_aardvark has joined the chat. [athodyd] is that a whoa at how sultry i am [aaron_aardvark] i am first please call on me next [Jenigma] Whoa out of control! American_McGee has joined the chat. [ThorBlackHammer] Excellent question, and a tough one. The OGRE engine, while extremely strong and capable, is still not at the top of the line when it comes to advanced graphical detailing. Also, with an art team as small as ours, the amount of time we had to devote to haska has joined the chat. [hezron] i agree that that question was first rate and tough as a bear [athodyd] last line ended at "had to devote to" [ThorBlackHammer] texturing and unit detailing wasn't nearly as much as we would have liked. So we focused on making the best-modeled, best-textured units we could and making them animate and react well, as opposed to using fancy effects [ThorBlackHammer] (DONE) [Jenigma] Athodyd and Hezron, please keep the chatter down :-) [ThorBlackHammer] Hello, Haska! Haska was one of the lead programmers on Supremacy and is also a genius Worm has joined the chat. [hezron] you're not the boss of me jenigma [hezron] joe lieberman is the boss of me [Joe_Lieberman] Keep it down hezron [athodyd] thy dread commander [Joe_Lieberman] Chalkdust [Jenigma] Punk'd! [Joe_Lieberman] any questions? chemdem has joined the chat. [aaron_aardvark] excuse me, AA is before Ch [Chalkdust] I asked a few earlier [Joe_Lieberman] we've been past As, we'll get back to you at the end Mr. aardvark *eye roll* [Chalkdust] they were answered [Joe_Lieberman] excellent :-) [Chalkdust] now I'm just kickin' back [Jenigma] Oh no not an eyeroll [Joe_Lieberman] Chemdem, any questions? [American_McGee] Keep the chatter down, JEnigma. [chemdem] Not momentarily... jenigma has left the chat. [Joe_Lieberman] Dibo, any questions? CccczzzJenigma has joined the chat. [athodyd] by eyeroll is this referring to maybe an asian style or european style roll [ThorBlackHammer] I am feeling unloved with a lack of questions [Joe_Lieberman] The kind you'd only understand if you met me [athodyd] thorb lack questions [kingprawn] I have a question (or two!) but am politely waiting my turn! [Joe_Lieberman] Thank you Mr. King [Joe_Lieberman] Fabio 2000, any questions? haska has left the chat. [Joe_Lieberman] (I Suppose dibo is afk) [CccczzzJenigma] Excuse me haska has joined the chat. [Worm] I supose a few of them are afk. [CccczzzJenigma] Chalkdust> Cccczzz [ThorBlackHammer] This alphabetical order plan is far inferior to my original suggestion of four "question-paths" Worm has left the chat. [athodyd] four like four fingers? [Joe_Lieberman] lol thor, I cant organize in 4 dimmnesions [aaron_aardvark] i'm sorry but theswitch just PMed me with Joe Lieberman's credit card info, what should i do? [athodyd] i would admire the design ethic that would so consistently apply the number four to things [American_McGee] Like four paths... to... somewhere... [Joe_Lieberman] Ghost, any questions? [athodyd] admire it ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK!!!!!!!! [Ghost_of_ToutSuite] YES [CccczzzJenigma] Joe, have you ever moderated a chat before? [Ghost_of_ToutSuite] god, I've been holding my breath this whole time [Ghost_of_ToutSuite] okay, here is my question: [Joe_Lieberman] Many Jenigma, unormally people aren't this... roudy. aaron_aardvark has left the chat. [hezron] current music: the clash - roudy can't fail [American_McGee] Four Paths attracts a rough crowd. [athodyd] roudy, randy, and savage [athodyd] all at once! [Ghost_of_ToutSuite] Thor (if that's your real name), was there every any thought given to a FIFTH path to Supremacy? And if so, would that be an Ancient Greek path, much like the new PS2 game, God of War? [Ghost_of_ToutSuite] I mean every, not every [Ghost_of_ToutSuite] whoops, I mean every [Ghost_of_ToutSuite] every [Ghost_of_ToutSuite] ever mobiustrip has left the chat. [ThorBlackHammer] I understand your meaning, Mr. Ghost [Ghost_of_ToutSuite] thanks CccczzzJenigma has left the chat. [athodyd] thor, i have another question regarding your new God of War game: i hear that there is a sexy sexual minigame involved within it. will such a ridiculous thing be included in konami's Four Fingers to Power? [Chalkdust] current music: The Specials - A Message to You Roudy DJenigma has joined the chat. [Ghost_of_ToutSuite] *sputter* ridiculous?! [ThorBlackHammer] This question is a difficult one to answer with any real clarity. For one, you could argue that the "spartan" character of Kratos in God of War is nothing more than a cheap rip-off of Supremacy's Kra'ag of the Cha'ar, right down to the facial scarring DJenigma has left the chat. HJenigma has joined the chat. [Ghost_of_ToutSuite] yeah, I noticed that :( [Ghost_of_ToutSuite] the scar [athodyd] will the scars affect gameplay [American_McGee] OUT OF TURN PAL [ThorBlackHammer] And what game was released first? I'll give you a hint - it starts with a SUP and ends with a REMACY: FOUR PATHS TO POWER [hezron] why aren't the scars bump-mapped [Erik_Rutins] Athodyd, last warning, stop the side chatter. [Ghost_of_ToutSuite] who competently implemented your game? [ThorBlackHammer] But God of War is great. It's also twice the price of Supremacy but it sure as hell won't give you twice the playtime [HJenigma] Hello mobiustrip has joined the chat. [Ghost_of_ToutSuite] but it WILL get you laid [Ghost_of_ToutSuite] (virtually) [ThorBlackHammer] So put that in your pippity pipe and smiggity smoke it [FABIO2000] that's for sure :( [ThorBlackHammer] DONE [FABIO2000] not that [HJenigma] I am new and I have many intersting questions [Joe_Lieberman] Hezron, any questions? [hezron] yes, mr. joe [Ghost_of_ToutSuite] my question is why is this chat so boring? I think that's more of a question for Joe Lieberman, though [hezron] thor, were there any features or elements you personally would have liked to see in supremacy, but weren't able to implement for any reason? Ghost_of_ToutSuite has left the chat. [athodyd] for example: some kind of custom facial scar editor Frostilicus has joined the chat. athodyd has left the chat. [ThorBlackHammer] That's an excellent question, Hezron! More excellent than even the last question. [hezron] :O DamagedRobert has joined the chat. [ThorBlackHammer] There were a number of elements in Supremacy that didn't make it through the development process - we originally wanted to give defending armies the ability to change the terrain on planets [ThorBlackHammer] (this changed into the force-field generator units) [FABIO2000] One just kind of flows into the other [ThorBlackHammer] There were also more narrative elements where your CO communicates with you, but those were removed because they interrupted the action too much, which I think hurt the game in the long run queserasera has joined the chat. [ThorBlackHammer] Well, Fabio, the original plan was to have walls et cetera - but the generators serve the same purpose in many ways [hezron] so does that mean you hate the game? i-thodyd has joined the chat. [ThorBlackHammer] no, I am a big fan of the game and still play it almost daily hezron has left the chat. [ThorBlackHammer] I take a day off to be with my loved ones on occasion [ThorBlackHammer] all right, DONE [mobiustrip] I for one, cannot wait to play this game. [Joe_Lieberman] Jenigma, any questions? [HJenigma] Yes!!! [American_McGee] I bet she's going to say something flithy. [HJenigma] Thor: What games would say were the most influential in the making of this game? Also, Joe, why are you trying to make potential consumers angry? [Joe_Lieberman] Why are potential customers trying to make me angry? ;-) No, I am not trying to make them angry, I am trying to hold a chat that someone can read without offending our guest. [ThorBlackHammer] Joe, I think she asked me a question first [i-thodyd] thor i dont mean to offend you but did you really kill all those black people in vietnam J-Speed has joined the chat. [Joe_Lieberman] Ah, right, Im out of turn :( i-thodyd has left the chat. [HJenigma] :-) [J-Speed] i have had whoper [Erik_Rutins] Joe is nice everyone, just give him some sunlight and you'll see :-) [American_McGee] Wait your turn, J-Speed. [American_McGee] You goddamn cocksucker American_McGee has left the chat. [ThorBlackHammer] Jenigma: We drew inspiration from many sources - the unit movement we wanted to be almost chesslike, with units strictly limited in abilities so that clever combination of them was the key to victory - as well as from Advance Wars, which handles grid- not-thodyd has joined the chat. not-thodyd has left the chat. [ThorBlackHammer] based combat elegantly and simply, as well as games liek X-Com which give you control over small squads on planetary surfaces... the list goes on [HJenigma] Thank you for your excellent answer. [ThorBlackHammer] we love startegy here, and we love combat, and we wanted to make a game that reflects that love. Also I love Burgertime but there is a distinct lack of burgers in Supremacy, which perhaps we will fix in the patch. [ThorBlackHammer] DONE!!!!! [Joe_Lieberman] Jason McMaster, any questions? [HJenigma] Thank you again. [Joe_Lieberman] (and for the record, burgertime was a crappy game) [ThorBlackHammer] YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH [Joe_Lieberman] :-) [Joe_Lieberman] Sir, yes sir! [JasonMcMaster] Ok, sure. Give me one minute J-Speed has left the chat. tha_snazzle has joined the chat. [Roentgen] I loved burgertime, played it on Intellivision. [kingprawn] burgertime is funtime! [tha_snazzle] mcd's petty good also SpaceMang has joined the chat. [tha_snazzle] also pizza [HJenigma] haha [SpaceMang] sup! is this thing on? [tha_snazzle] come on do you like 2 eat pizza ygurts has left the chat. [ThorBlackHammer] Is that an official question? [HJenigma] This could have been so much better than you made it. Oh well, have it your way. (TM) :-) [Erik_Rutins] Yes, we're just waiting for a question from Jason McMaster, questions are proceeding in order according to the sidebar list kagel has joined the chat. [Joe_Lieberman] (actually Frost will have the next question by special request) [Frostilicus] Thank you. [Frostilicus] It's more of a comment, really, and one I think that needs to be address. [ThorBlackHammer] Please, feel free [Frostilicus] Supremacy: Four Paths to Power? Look, I teach american history at a community college in San Fran, and this whole thing stinks of one big metaphor for facist, race oriented imperialism. I mean, black hammer games? [SpaceMang] what's not cool about space fascism? >:( [Frostilicus] 'Thor'? That's nordic hate-speak for 'oppresor' Kapow has joined the chat. [kingprawn] some of us have serious questions, frosty >:( [ThorBlackHammer] Well, that's an interesting perspective, if a little "longhaired" if you know what I'm saying (mimes "toking on weed gesture" and points at you), but if you really take a closer look at the game you'll realize that to triumph, you will have to be a uniter [ThorBlackHammer] not a divider [ThorBlackHammer] like great uniters in history like martin luther king jr, mahatma ghandi and paste pot pete (aka the trapster) [Frostilicus] I have just been informed that Thor is indeed your real name. [ThorBlackHammer] supremacy is all about mixing and matching, mingling and blending [Frostilicus] I detract my statement and I am gladdened that you have chosen a family name. [ThorBlackHammer] Black Hammer Game is in New York, the great melting pot of America [SpaceMang] uniting by suicide bombing and resurrecting your enemies into space zombies. [ThorBlackHammer] please, accusations of racio-fascism are something that we take very seriously [ThorBlackHammer] Black Hammer president Matthew Shclanger is jewish and I am 1/8 korean [ThorBlackHammer] this is not funny [Erik_Rutins] Frostilicus, it's a sci-fi game, not a political statement. As Yoda said when Luke asked about the tree "What's in there?"... "Only what you bring with you..." [ThorBlackHammer] I agree [ThorBlackHammer] And inside the Supremacy tree is a great turn-based strategy experience [kingprawn] no spoilers! I am watching empire strikes back tonight for the first time! [Frostilicus] Don't worry Prawn, I'm pretty sure that that never happened in star wars. [Joe_Lieberman] I think your answer was well addressed Thor [ThorBlackHammer] Thank you, Joe [Erik_Rutins] Agreed. Sorry for that Thor, let's move on. [ThorBlackHammer] I don't shy away from the tough questions [Joe_Lieberman] Jhoh, any questions? [Jhoh] Why do you think more well-funded companies like Sony continue to tread water and pollute the gaming world with derivative games (like God of War) instead of innovating like Supremacy: Four Paths to Power (available now for $24.99)? thorbardin has joined the chat. [Joe_Lieberman] thor been paying people to ask questions now? heh [HJenigma] why would you say that [HJenigma] you are not a very good PR guy [ThorBlackHammer] Jhoh, an excellent question. One of the reasons we were so excited to partner with Matrix is that their reputation for standing strong behind innovative, fun strategy titles was so good [ThorBlackHammer] It's a genre that doesn't get a lot of love from the big guys but obviously there's tons of people who want to play it - look at how crowded this chatroom is - and the big names can continue to squeeze out grogans of "edgy" rip-off product all they want [ThorBlackHammer] but I think our IGF nomination and the quality of Supremacy speak for themselves [ThorBlackHammer] We don't need to show big boomin' hoons and bloody gore-stumps of people getting quadrospazzed by rip-talons to make a good game [ThorBlackHammer] And we don't need to sell out with hippity-hop tracks by Ice-Q to connect with the kids [ThorBlackHammer] DONE [FABIO2000] until the patch |
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