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Re: "Do we really need to learn to code?" by Mysterio 06/11/2014, 4:20pm PDT
Ice Cream Jonsey wrote:

I think it was in 2005 that I saw a demo of some software that was supposed to let you code using flowcharts. My fear is that, having seen a few go-nowhere and clumsy attempts at coding without coding, that I'd be against any such thing ever working in the future.

What do you think?

there's plenty of coding that gets done with that kind of app, it's not new. iirc the embedded code that runs iron injectors during the cpu manufacturing process was c# templates arranged as a series of state machines in visio. tibco's primary product has one and the last consultant I worked with for it bragged he "hadn't looked at code in 3 years." I think it's fine but you develop a skill that isn't portable, like I'd rather be a shitty coder but able to read java than an ace with a fucking graphing tool. this guy Bret Victor did a talk about a good way to make visual development work without losing sight of the code, and epic actually demo'd a version of this as part of unreal 4:

I know it's an hour but it's really good. tech video wise it's up there with "fuck you pay me" or talks from the guy who made clojure
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"Do we really need to learn to code?" by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/11/2014, 7:22am PDT NEW
    Did you break reply+quote ICJ? You should get a robot to code for you by Entropy Stew 06/11/2014, 7:28am PDT NEW
        Re: Did you break reply+quote ICJ? You should get a robot to code for you by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/11/2014, 7:09pm PDT NEW
            the good news is that Bradley already wrapped the site in regression UI tests NT by Fullofkittens 06/11/2014, 7:30pm PDT NEW
    In a few more years we won't program at all! We'll tell the machine what to do. NT by Tekpriests of Rigel, 2479 A.D. 06/11/2014, 9:18am PDT NEW
        In a few more years we won't program at all! We'll tell the machine what to do. NT by Wallyix Hivemind, 5558 A.D. 06/11/2014, 9:21am PDT NEW
            In a few more years we won't program at all! We'll tell the machine what to do. NT by $!&&_*#, heat death of the universe 06/11/2014, 9:22am PDT NEW
    Re: "Do we really need to learn to code?" by Fullofkittens 06/11/2014, 9:37am PDT NEW
    Computer, make this app for me plx by EuroProgrammer 06/11/2014, 1:50pm PDT NEW
    Re: "Do we really need to learn to code?" by Mysterio 06/11/2014, 4:20pm PDT NEW
        lol mysterio. it's me NT by jeep 06/11/2014, 4:21pm PDT NEW
    Show kids Scratch, but holy fuck no. NT by The Happiness Engine 06/11/2014, 4:31pm PDT NEW
    They don't need to code, they need to learn to build their own goddamn reports NT by Rafiki 06/11/2014, 5:43pm PDT NEW
        I didn't think I could love you any more than I already do, Rafiki by Entropy Stew 06/11/2014, 10:12pm PDT NEW
    Re: "Do we really need to learn to code?" by blackwater 06/12/2014, 1:00am PDT NEW
        You're insane. by EuroKramer 06/12/2014, 2:13am PDT NEW
        Re: "Do we really need to learn to code?" by Mysterio 06/12/2014, 1:02pm PDT NEW
        Re: "Do we really need to learn to code?" by Danny Gosub 03/10/2019, 10:21am PDT NEW
            This is trivially true. The problem is programming is hard and morons can't. NT by The Happiness Engine 03/11/2019, 2:43pm PDT NEW
 
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