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by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 11/18/2015, 5:47pm PST |
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Fullofkittens wrote:
University town in the Midwest, still get to work at a tech company, still surrounded by hipster bbq places and microbreweries at every turn.
People forget that houses are sold in a free market, where seller and buyer have the ability to negotiate and prices are set by what comparable properties near them also have sold for. This can mean prices go down as well as up. That's one of the reasons the HARP program was set up, for people in trouble who were now "underwater" on a property where they owed more than it was worth on the market and might have trouble making payments.
I wrote about this October 5, 2008 in my blog. There are two parts to this, some of which I didn't cover there because I didn't think of it at the time. First, a lot of people bought more house than they could afford, either with "teaser rates" of 1 or 2% that are interest only and are for a short term, while the actual rate of 8% becomes front loaded and increases the principal they owe. Second, because housing prices tend to go up over the long term, many people bought a house and used it as a piggy bank or an ATM, in which, as the value of their house rose, they borrowed against the additional equity, using the money as, in effect, "free money," because money you borrow is not taxable, and until you sell the house you don't have to worry about it. Further, if you then buy another house worth as much or more as your original house (this is called a "Starker exchange" for the name of the taxpayer who did it and won when challenged by the IRS), any profit you made on the sale is deferred until that house sells. So you might not have to account for it for another 30 years, if you live that long.
But, as I wrote in the above blog more than seven years ago, I said, "But again, it's not a problem as long as you can refinance. Real estate prices always go up, right? It's been that way for over a hundred years. Yes, over time real estate prices have gone up, but at times they do go down, and sometimes they stay down, sometimes for years."
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My generation by My generation 10/27/2015, 8:55am PDT 
Yep, the middle class is getting fucked. by Oom Shnibble 10/27/2015, 9:56am PDT 
47% dont pay income tax! NT by Mitt Romney 10/27/2015, 11:18am PDT 
The average cost of a home is 188k. Solution: Move out of Seattle NT by WITTGENSTEIN 10/27/2015, 10:47am PDT 
Re: The average cost of a home is 188k. Solution: Move out of Seattle by Atheist Christpuncher 10/27/2015, 4:44pm PDT 
Good news: Being a whiny urban hipster douche is now its own punishment. by dr. no 10/28/2015, 10:50pm PDT 
750k = 7000% of 95k NT by new math 10/27/2015, 11:24am PDT 
hyperbole NT by sins of the new fathers 10/28/2015, 1:21am PDT 
a specific paranthetical number for a specific number NT by hyperbole for TDarcos 10/28/2015, 10:07am PDT 
The pricing of houses here is roughly correct by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 10/30/2015, 8:52am PDT 
No it's not you stupid paraplegic asshole, shut up. Go away. EUROTRASH HELP NT by WITTGENSTEIN 10/30/2015, 10:59am PDT 
I don't know anything about housing prices in your country. LEAVE ME ALONE by Eurotrash 10/30/2015, 1:02pm PDT 
This is a case where Paul is 100% correct by Souffle of Pain 10/30/2015, 1:08pm PDT 
Typical TARDCOSian anecdote by The Locust's Realator 10/31/2015, 3:02pm PDT 
You got trolled by TDARCOS. GAME OVER, MAN. GAME OVER. by dr. no 11/18/2015, 2:03am PST 
I bought my house for 100k in 2007 and it is currently worth 80k. #ThanksObama by Fullofkittens 11/18/2015, 6:17am PST 
Re: I bought my house for 100k in 2007 and it is currently worth 80k... by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 11/18/2015, 5:47pm PST 
Sure, I guess I'll finance the TDARCOS way via multiple credit cards by Overseas Property Manager 11/18/2015, 10:16pm PST 
I wish to apologize for my misleading remark by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 11/18/2015, 5:17pm PST 
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