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Glad you're doing okay. I can't help much but here's how I get people into thera by Welcome to Omsk 12/18/2015, 6:06pm PST Convincing someone to go to a therapist is a mug's game, or a job for an intervention. If you ain't got a group of the most meaningful people in her life, don't convince her, take her there and let her make up her mind. Words are the weakest parts of people's beliefs, you can destroy her in an argument and nothing changes but give her a new experience and something might. Here's how I've done it myself. If it doesn't help then sorry, I tried - but if you don't try because you think it won't help you're maybe in the grip of sad-brain biases. And I want your tiny girlfriend and you to maybe not have a bad future. I make sure I have a therapist myself who is fun to talk to and who I'm comfortable talking to, tell the therapist I want to bring someone into session, and ask if they're willing to take on more clients or refer out. Then I bring a friend/significant other there on whatever honest/stupid pretext I think will work, from 'psychoeducation is great for everyone, you're literally learning about the mechanics of human behavior here, come on' to 'I want you to see me in this therapeutic process, it is important for our friendship' to 'this would help me get over some shit' or whatever, always making sure to tell the fucking nutcase in question that they're under no pressure to do nothing more than sit and listen, and can stop and ask questions if they want. If they're ready to actually engage with the therapist, they get to ask questions from the start, too. Occasionally with girlfriends it was the case that they knew things might improve, perhaps for me and their connection to me, the relationship etc so I told them 'my shrink thinks relationships last longer and get better even if they're healthy if you can bring them into a therapeutic space, want to see if we can do ourselves a favor there? It'd mean a lot to me.' Sometimes, if they couldn't get a shrink because of insurance, 'I'll bring you in and you can basically use the session for therapy, it's paid for by the government/my savings and I'll have plenty more so what do I care, so go ahead - I'll sit outside or put in my earbuds if you want privacy, I don't mind.' This last one also works with friends who need help. So then you go and have the session as normal, preferably a session about pretty regular shit and not about crisis mode, and they sit in the office with you and get to see the therapeutic process happen for someone they know, get to watch you feel better/feel relief, etc. You can do introductions and permission early on in session or clam up early with 15 minutes to spare and let them talk or really whatever seems relevant, even let them take the session and make it theirs, but really once they're there asked to go into the office under the pretext of going for someone else's sake suddenly they're not worried about how it reflects on them because they're there for you, so they can dodge the urge to make resistance statements like 'I don't need a therapist, it won't do me any good, nothing's wrong with me' or whatever - but then once they're there, they may as well ask questions or participate, maybe experience some vicarious relief, see what a safe space feels like. I've put friends, lovers, and significant others into the care of therapists this way and each one decided to stick with it long enough to give it a shot long-term. Make it a shrink that's good at what they do if you can, but even a merely okay one gives them someone neutral and disconnected from their social circle to talk to.

Well I'm screwed by laudablepuss 12/17/2015, 7:00am PST     A few options? by Mysterio Lollerson 12/17/2015, 7:23am PST     So not to detrats from your issues but this may make you put thing in perspectiv by Oom Shnibble 12/17/2015, 8:25am PST         That was typed on my phone in a traffic jam so the typos are obscene. NT by Oom Shnibble 12/17/2015, 8:31am PST         This really hit home for me by laudablepuss 12/18/2015, 12:30am PST             All posts here are on my phone also, phones only in this thread NT by laudablepuss 12/18/2015, 12:32am PST                 Now you're speaking my language NT by E.T. 12/18/2015, 1:43pm PST             As long as we are sharing. by Oom Shnibble 12/19/2015, 5:37am PST                 It's a chronic illness, for me. by Welcome to Omsk 12/19/2015, 9:14am PST     This is a serious post by Mischief Maker 12/17/2015, 10:07am PST         You got healthcare now? Well then problem solved. by Injustice 12/17/2015, 3:14pm PST             This is a good point. by Souffle of Pain 12/17/2015, 3:55pm PST         Thanks for this by laudablepuss 12/20/2015, 10:44am PST     Re: Well I'm screwed by Mysterio 12/17/2015, 11:08am PST     laudable, can you please post an email address you have Paypal tied to? NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/17/2015, 11:09am PST     Sorry everyone by laudablepuss 12/18/2015, 12:10am PST         Good to hear you made it past that hurdle. by Oom Shnibble 12/18/2015, 5:45am PST         Re: Sorry everyone by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/18/2015, 8:44am PST             "Some combination of James Bond" by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/18/2015, 8:49am PST             + everything by The Happiness Engine 12/18/2015, 3:58pm PST                 Here it is by laudablepuss 12/21/2015, 4:08am PST                     I'm not a malicious asshole, just a lazy one. by The Happiness Engine 12/23/2015, 5:06pm PST                         Re: I'm not a malicious asshole, just a lazy one. by laudablepuss 12/24/2015, 9:15am PST                             Paypal is so bad alternatives exist in droves, it just has market share. by http://www.paypalsucks.com/ 12/24/2015, 5:35pm PST                                 Holy Shit by The Happiness Engine 12/25/2015, 7:35am PST             I wish that interviewing people was easier by Anonymized regular poster 12/19/2015, 10:18am PST                 Sorry but the last one is a bit fucking retarded. by Oom Shnibble 12/19/2015, 10:38am PST                     They're all retarded! by Anonymized regular poster 12/19/2015, 10:54am PST                         I wasn't even particularly nervous! by laudablepuss 12/21/2015, 4:15am PST         Glad you're doing okay. I can't help much but here's how I get people into thera by Welcome to Omsk 12/18/2015, 6:06pm PST             Also: maybe she can sit on Amazon mTurk and earn $40 a day or something? by Welcome to Omsk 12/18/2015, 6:08pm PST                 Re: Also: maybe she can sit on Amazon mTurk and earn $40 a day or something? by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/18/2015, 11:23pm PST                     Here are some examples of AutoHotKey and making real money with microwork by Welcome to Omsk 12/19/2015, 9:08am PST                         Re: Here are some examples of AutoHotKey and making real money with microwork by An Actual IRL Cat 12/20/2015, 9:51pm PST                             Nyanquiry to Entropy Stew by An Actual IRL Cat 12/20/2015, 9:53pm PST                                 Site isn't utf8 pure by Entropy Stew 12/24/2015, 7:47am PST                             I was trying to get appen referrals awhile ago, but it's over now by Worm 12/21/2015, 3:52pm PST                                 What's the per-hour dollar amount? For reference mTurkers who excel earn 10-20/h by Welcome to Omsk 12/22/2015, 4:42am PST                                     I get 14.44 an hour right now. by Worm 12/22/2015, 1:58pm PST                                         Thanks! Does it require anything much to get started? by Welcome to Omsk 12/24/2015, 7:34am PST                                             Yeah, US Residency for the Social Media Eval stuff. by Worm 12/24/2015, 11:31am PST                                                 Thanks again. Can people do more than one hour of work a day? What's the limit? by Welcome to Omsk 12/24/2015, 5:46pm PST                                                     It's just evaluation, so no feed flooding. by Worm 12/24/2015, 7:37pm PST                                                         There is probably a requirement that the account has a number of friends though. NT by Worm 12/24/2015, 7:38pm PST                                                         There is probably a requirement that the account has a number of friends though. NT by Worm 12/24/2015, 7:39pm PST                             r/beermoney and r/mturk start bite-sized, after that the IRC, forums & doing it by Welcome to Omsk 12/22/2015, 4:47am PST                                 Are there certain HITs to avoid? by Depressed Shut-in 12/23/2015, 7:19am PST                                     Yes, the community has a huge resource list to help there by Welcome to Omsk 12/24/2015, 7:31am PST                                         A path back into good GRACES. Christ. Stupid phone. NT by Welcome to Omsk 12/24/2015, 5:37pm PST                         Thanks. by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/22/2015, 12:45pm PST                             You're welcome. Now don't make them any wiser. by Welcome to Omsk 12/22/2015, 1:07pm PST     "Caltrops is a shithole" says the Internet by The Internet 12/19/2015, 2:34pm PST         Pollyanna, Bitches! NT by Mischief Claus 12/19/2015, 3:35pm PST     Hope it's all good now. Next time make a Patreon for Christ sakes. by Roop 12/20/2015, 1:51pm PST     Can we get an update? NT by Brian 12/23/2015, 8:41pm PST     Got a job offer, start Tuesday by laudablepuss 01/14/2016, 5:49am PST         Congrats, dude! NT by Oom Shnibble 01/14/2016, 6:13am PST         Re: Got a job offer, start Tuesday by Ice Cream Jonsey 01/18/2016, 10:53am PST             Re: Got a job offer, start Tuesday by laudablepuss 01/20/2016, 12:56am PST                 Aaaaaand no offer from the other guys afterall by laudablepuss 01/20/2016, 5:10pm PST