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There's a frontpage article on Caltrops about how the original M&M didn't hold your hand and people should stop having panic attacks and try for the reward, and you're coming at me with 'oh there's no tutorial so most people can't handle it so its value is lessened 8)' as if that diminishes my enjoyment. I've already won here, I know how to be entertained by this game permanently, thank you for embellishing my victory with your indication that you need training wheels where I just get on and ride. I agree you are a lesser man.
Maybe the standard for a worthwhile use of my time doesn't need to come from every 'hardcore' gamer playing middlebrow shovelware and screaming about their need for a how-to guide when they wander into deeper waters. Maybe the mass market, where tutorials matter, doesn't know best when it comes to gameplay. The indie designers that experiment with it mostly end up catering to a niche anyway. Even if a truly effective designer knows how to sell a product to sustain a business to reach a point where he can experiment, that hasn't always produced good tutorials and it's certainly produced bland horseshit like Fallout 4. Paradox does fine for sustained sales incidentally, on the whole their niche doesn't want handholding.
There's a class of games where you pour in work and get not a lot to show for it and there's a class that repays it in months to years of entertainment. This isn't just grand strats, there's esports and MOBA games in that category. Not all of them are good at tutorials, but sometimes design gets into zero-sum logistics, a dollar or a man-hour thrown to one feature means less somewhere else. If you offered me a decent tutorial versus all development resources poured into the experience I'd rather a game stood on its gameplay to the exclusion of all else. Maybe it's the important feature, it has 'game' right in there. There should be a list thread about the long-term reward games on Caltrops. We certainly have every other kind of list. |
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If this goes on Steam sale, I'm buying it for pinback because I think it will ch by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/19/2016, 11:50pm PDT 
I have it. I don't understand it. NT by pinback 06/20/2016, 5:02am PDT
Would you like some help understanding it? I'll be nice. by Welcome to Omsk 06/20/2016, 12:09pm PDT
I fire it up and see ten billion buttons, and the tooltips use words I've never NT by heard before and I have no idea wha 06/20/2016, 12:14pm PDT
You need UI proficiency. My advice: by Welcome to Omsk 06/20/2016, 2:23pm PDT
Sounds too much like hard work. NT by Oom Shnibble 06/21/2016, 2:36am PDT
Exactly. NT by pinback 06/21/2016, 6:16am PDT
If I train, basketball is fun. If not I'm a wheezing heart attack risk on the co by urt. Oom gets a pass though, he's 06/22/2016, 11:18am PDT
None of that resembles anything I am doing right now. You don't really know me NT by at all, do you? 06/22/2016, 11:29am PDT
Then why are you talking like someone who lives that life? by Welcome to Omsk 06/22/2016, 11:34am PDT
What? NT by pinback 06/22/2016, 11:47am PDT
Let me break this down for you by Welcome to Omsk 06/22/2016, 2:58pm PDT
If you figure it out let me know. I hoped he was gay but he's not even into men NT by pinback's mom 06/22/2016, 5:36pm PDT
This is why people cannot stand Paradox fans. by pinback 06/22/2016, 6:18pm PDT
I find your lack of learning enjoyment disturbing, your lack of effort by explain your bullshit 06/24/2016, 8:42am PDT
Because I have a job, seven animals, a kid on the way, and I'd like to by pinback 06/24/2016, 8:52am PDT
If only your answer had said 'I'm too busy' and not 'Hard work!?' you gamer dad by Welcome to Omsk 06/24/2016, 2:15pm PDT
If only your answer had said 'I'm too busy' and not 'Hard work!?' you gamer dad by Mysterio 06/24/2016, 2:51pm PDT
Eve Online is a totally approachable chat client, CK2 is like Might & Magic 1 by just do your homework 06/27/2016, 7:20am PDT
Wow, you're a goddamn lunatic. Is this a bit? Is this whole place a bit? NT by pinback 06/24/2016, 3:03pm PDT
BTW, I can only afford 53 of the DLC packs. Which are the best 53? NT by pinback 06/24/2016, 3:24pm PDT
I like that you were called a Gamer Dad at, what, t-minus by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/25/2016, 8:46pm PDT
Caltrops needed to break more records. I do what I can NT by Welcome to Omsk 06/27/2016, 6:58am PDT
My windows 98 SE cd was found busted in two yesterday. Does that count? :( :( by laudablepuss 06/27/2016, 7:52am PDT
There are traditional workarounds to cost. I'm not an outraged fanboy by Welcome to Omsk 06/27/2016, 7:22am PDT
You're fucking insane NT by artist formerly known as Eurotrash 06/27/2016, 4:42pm PDT
*behind hand* he may have a mental CONDITION by laudablepuss 06/28/2016, 8:34am PDT
I am sorry I brought pinback into this thread, but this post always makes me lau NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 05/06/2018, 12:00pm PDT
Is your kid as much of a worthless asshole as you are? NT by JoltCountry Lurker 05/06/2018, 12:04pm PDT
Nobody lurks my site. This is like saying you're a woman lurking here. NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 05/06/2018, 2:20pm PDT
Pinback: *ramps his pickup truck into the ocean* WOOOAAAHHHH NT by Commander Tansin A. Darcos 06/22/2016, 8:59pm PDT
Thank God you said something, I thought nobody could appreciate these games by Welcome to Omsk 06/20/2016, 12:08pm PDT
This is all well and good, Omsk, but I think you forgot something. by Ice Cream Jonsey 06/20/2016, 12:56pm PDT
There is *ahem* the matter of the dowry. NT by Welcome to Omsk 06/20/2016, 2:15pm PDT
CK2 vs EU4: which is the right choice for me, the common idiot? by mark 06/20/2016, 7:18pm PDT
CK2 by Rey Mysterio Jr. 06/20/2016, 7:26pm PDT
Rey's not wrong, but here's a simple breakdown of Paradox grand strats by Welcome to Omsk 06/22/2016, 10:56am PDT
It's on sale along with EU4, Vic2, and HoI3. I will give this a try. NT by mark 06/23/2016, 7:51pm PDT
I tried Vic 2 for about 10 hours by fabio 06/24/2016, 2:39am PDT
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