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by Mischief Maker 07/01/2017, 6:35am PDT |
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How many goddamn posts did I make in the wake of the election results screaming at bernie or busters? Hell, when I said "elections have consequences" in this very thread it was a dig at them. Understanding is not agreeing.
That said, I don't think the allegations of primary fuckery alone were what made the busters stay home. Maybe this is a case that when your main tool is a hammer every problem looks like a nail, but when Sanders forgave Clinton and called for everyone to rally behind her only to get booed by his own delegates, it struck me as similar to the dynamics at play in a settlement negotiation when a party who feels deeply insulted stalls a negotiation inches from the finish line and concocts some kind of martyrdom-related excuse to save face. When it gets that bad, I as a mediator know something the other party did was an insult to the angry party's sense of identity, and if you don't resolve that anger no amount of reasoning about the dollars at stake will move them. Does an unprecedented coordinated campaign to paint self-described "woke progressives" as sexist bigoted Bernie Bros insult their sense of identity?
And like I said before, looking ahead to 2018, what changes can be made to avoid a repeat of the 2016 disaster? It is impossible to stop everyone on the internet from saying fuckery happened in the 2016 primary, especially because a lot of them are making money from it. Meanwhile it is totally possible for democratic strategists to realize the 2016 campaign stretched the Sister Souljah strategy beyond the breaking point and adjust their campaign tactics accordingly. The reason I was so angry in my first post in this subthread is I don't think they're learning the lesson fast enough. That said, I have heard some encouraging things out of Chuck Schumer recently indicating that at least he realized Ossoff's "I'm just like a Republican, but polite!" campaign theme was a dud. |
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CNN producer admits to pushing “bullshit” Russia narrative. by hey 06/27/2017, 7:22am PDT
Are you officially a Russian citizen now or what NT by laudablepuss 06/27/2017, 8:19am PDT
It's not the crime, it's the coverup. NT by Nixon 06/27/2017, 8:29am PDT
Calling witness MM to dispel this false flag by or is it false fag? 06/27/2017, 9:04pm PDT
Don't ask MM by Vested Id 06/27/2017, 9:43pm PDT
Re: Don't ask MM by Vested Id 06/27/2017, 9:51pm PDT
"In actuality, this is the opposite of fake news,” by said one CNN source 06/27/2017, 10:09pm PDT
Are you talking about the band The Roots? Or explicitly not talking about them, by I guess, since it's struck out. 06/27/2017, 11:09pm PDT
Gay conspiracy, or Russian conspiracy, OR GAY RUSSIAN Plot? by Leave a meassage after the beep 06/27/2017, 11:18pm PDT
You know, the guy who broke the Enigma code was gay. by We could sure use him about now! 06/28/2017, 12:23am PDT
Asking you to resign by Jeff Zucker 06/28/2017, 12:26am PDT
(king) (to) <--possibly a chess code? NT by THIS IS WHAT MY DESK LOOKS LIKE 06/28/2017, 12:32am PDT
CNN shits the bed by and you want to cry about it 06/28/2017, 12:42am PDT
Cry havoc and let slip <s>the band the roots</s> actual roots like on a tree. by Raise a hue and <i>racket.</i> 06/28/2017, 12:55am PDT
You've cracked the autism code by CNN Breaking chyron 06/28/2017, 7:09pm PDT
Yes, I think Veritas are paid hatchet men. And the producer's probably right. by Mischief Maker 06/28/2017, 6:22am PDT
Re: Yes, I think Veritas are paid hatchet men. And the producer's. by fabio 06/28/2017, 2:06pm PDT
You could be right! You know what else might have fueled Bernie or Bust? by Mischief Maker 06/28/2017, 4:15pm PDT
Thanks for dropping in MM NT by fair insight! 06/28/2017, 7:05pm PDT
I'm concerned by the level of crazy in here. NT by laudablepuss 06/29/2017, 11:12am PDT
Please elaborate. by Mischief Maker 06/29/2017, 3:12pm PDT
I don't care about this, but lol at the Intercept by skip 06/29/2017, 4:47pm PDT
What about the one guy by Vested Id 06/29/2017, 5:07pm PDT
Hold on by Vested Id 06/29/2017, 5:12pm PDT
This writer is great by skip 06/29/2017, 7:02pm PDT
Gonna take a guy named Lee Fang over you any day. NT by Worm 06/29/2017, 7:56pm PDT
That name is under question by ((((anonymous sources))) NT by skip 06/29/2017, 8:36pm PDT
Source close to the administration alleges NT by comments from unnamed insiders 06/29/2017, 9:43pm PDT
Your source refers to himself as "Deep Throat?" PSH! NT by Mischief Maker 06/29/2017, 9:50pm PDT
So links to supporting evidence (which you didn't click) = Alex Jones. Got it! by Mischief Maker 06/29/2017, 7:32pm PDT
You're the worst type of dumb: a cynical, self-victimizing dumb NT by skip 06/29/2017, 8:34pm PDT
I honestly can't tell if you're doing a bit here by fabio 06/30/2017, 7:25am PDT
Neither can I. by Mischief Maker 06/30/2017, 9:39am PDT
it only took you guys 8 years to realize MM was nuttier than a shithouse rat NT by (slow clap) 06/30/2017, 2:31pm PDT
You're the "They cancel out!" guy of political discourse by fabio 06/30/2017, 7:56pm PDT
Maybe it's from experience stacking countersuits by Two Wrongs 06/30/2017, 11:56pm PDT
You're completely misinterpreting me, dude. by Mischief Maker 07/01/2017, 6:35am PDT
MM: how dare some group on the left make false accusations of sexism against ME by dr. no 07/28/2017, 10:06am PDT
Take that MM, Bernie Bro BLOWN THE FUCK OUT! by - Fabio, "Thought Leader" 07/01/2017, 12:50pm PDT
skip, you're not helping. NT by MM 07/01/2017, 2:45pm PDT
Not it. Quit seeing Mysterio conspiracies. You're not helping your case. NT by skip, came here to trash The Interc 07/01/2017, 7:40pm PDT
That's two put on acts that disagree. NT by fabio 07/01/2017, 8:41pm PDT
Hillary was PERFECT by - Fabio, "Thought Leader" 07/01/2017, 9:07pm PDT
I'm perfectly fine with this representing the Bernie base. NT by fabio 07/01/2017, 10:36pm PDT
Honestly, what do democrats have going for them other than "not republicans"? by Worm 07/02/2017, 1:46pm PDT
Of course you can't be bothered to care about a thing by fabio 07/02/2017, 5:56pm PDT
Yeah man, when everyone sleeps in on your candidate in 2020 blame them. by Worm 07/02/2017, 7:26pm PDT
more money, more Hollywood endorsements for 2020 NT by wheeling out HRC in iron lung 07/02/2017, 8:25pm PDT
Get the entertainment biz out of my politics!!! NT by elects a game show host 07/02/2017, 8:33pm PDT
"I don't care about X but (generic, progressive opinion) NT by every Worm post these days 07/02/2017, 9:22pm PDT
yeah so? by Worm 07/03/2017, 2:05pm PDT
BUT HER EMAILS by - Fabio, "Thought Leader" 07/02/2017, 9:37pm PDT
It works in California by Vested Id 07/02/2017, 6:49pm PDT
Folsom Fumigators vs Berkeley Bombers NT by maybe not the third party you want 07/02/2017, 8:30pm PDT
Hillary is the bestest politician every, you sexists by - Fabio, "Thought Leader" 07/01/2017, 12:59pm PDT
Re: Please elaborate. by laudablepuss 06/29/2017, 11:09pm PDT
And I agree. by Mischief Maker 06/30/2017, 6:21am PDT
Can we talk about the crazy? Please Mac I've been dyin' to talk about the crazy NT by Mischief Charlie 06/29/2017, 11:12pm PDT
Are you fucking serious? This is how crazy you sound by Mischief Maker, "Thought Leader" 06/28/2017, 8:27pm PDT
haha oh fuck, THOUGHT LEADER! by Now we're cookin with gas 06/28/2017, 8:45pm PDT
CNN also called Americans stupid and Trump nuts. by skip 06/30/2017, 4:04pm PDT
Re: CNN also called Americans stupid and Trump nuts. by Vested Id 06/30/2017, 4:17pm PDT
Not you btw, the Intercept guy NT by Vested Id 06/30/2017, 4:33pm PDT
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