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by Fullofkittens 12/09/2018, 9:35am PST |
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Ableton Live is cool (and it is what I used to make the electro house I did when making the music I made for the Fwonk* label) but it is quite expensive and if your desired end result is "mp3s with music you wrote in them" then you have to learn both all about MIDI and synths and *also* dig through all the play-this-live-in-public metaphors that are the UX happy path in Live to get to the more hidden just-make-some-music UX paths.
To make the album A House is a Machine For Living I used Cubase. It is very powerful and more straightforward than Ableton and if you have no desire to DJ or play live I would look there before Ableton.
The first places I'd look for you, though, Jonesy would be:
- Reaper - which is an indie DAW that is very reasonably priced and does pretty much the same thing that Cubase does. I have friends that are indie acoustic rockers that do all of their recording in this and they love it. I have not used it myself but it is cheap and very well-regarded.
- Renoise - this is the DAW to use if you want to nerd out while composing. If Pro Tools is the Star Wars of DAWs, and Logic is the Star Trek of DAWs, and Ableton is the Marvel Cinematic Universe of DAWs...Renoise is the Primer of DAWs. It uses a "MOD Tracker"-style interface which means that a: instead of having any relationship to sheet music, it looks like you're typing into a spreadsheet and b: once you figure it out, you can make music extremely fast because every keystroke is another note in your composition. (I found Renoise while trying to figure out how in the world Venetian Snares could write the music he was writing during the breakcore era. It turned out Renoise was the go-to DAW for breakcore.) I used Renoise to make Electronic Arrangements of Acoustic Music for Plants.
I would recommend figuring out how to make a song with software synths before figuring out how to deal with the problem of sending MIDI to a hardware synth and recording the audio back out of it. It's more fun audio nerd stuff but it's a bunch more money and hassle. Native Instruments' Komplete is an industry standard and has enough synth power to keep a hobbyist busy for literally years. That's before you upgrade to the "Ultimate" bundle which adds all the sample packs and drum sets etc. Massive alone is two months' worth of happy tweaking; Reaktor is a rabbit hole that can never be escaped.
So yeah: my recommendation to you Jonesy is to consider Komplete as your first set of synthesizers, and to take Reaper and Renoise each for a spin. |
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Any of you ever pay for a new musical work to be made? by Mysterio 11/05/2018, 8:02am PST 
How many hours do you think it will take to make this song? NT by $200 for a days work ain't bad 11/06/2018, 6:36am PST
It depends. by Fullofkittens 11/07/2018, 8:42am PST
FoK, are you up on synthesizers at all? by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/06/2018, 12:20pm PST
I am retracting this question until I learn more. I just realized everything I d by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/07/2018, 10:25am PST
Arturia CS-80V (software) 150 bucks, free demo by Entropy Stew 12/07/2018, 11:43am PST
Re: Arturia CS-80V (software) 150 bucks, free demo by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/07/2018, 12:40pm PST
Is your intent to have physical synths? by Entropy Stew 12/07/2018, 1:20pm PST
Also: dealing with outboard euipment is a lot more complicated and $$$ NT by Entropy Stew 12/07/2018, 1:22pm PST
Re: Is your intent to have physical synths? by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/08/2018, 9:37am PST
Pro Tools Free is out by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/08/2018, 1:32pm PST
Abelton Live 10 is in by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/08/2018, 4:00pm PST
Pro Tools was always more about recording mic'd up instruments than anything by Entropy Stew 12/08/2018, 3:56pm PST
Fuck Pro Tools and anything owned by Avid. (DAW recommendations!) by Fullofkittens 12/09/2018, 9:35am PST
Oh and I forgot about Reason by Fullofkittens 12/09/2018, 10:21am PST
Re: Fuck Pro Tools and anything owned by Avid. (DAW recommendations!) by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/10/2018, 8:36am PST
Re: Fuck Pro Tools and anything owned by Avid. (DAW recommendations!) by Fullofkittens 12/10/2018, 12:55pm PST
P.S. maybe I should have read the upthread conversation NT by Fullofkittens 12/10/2018, 7:38pm PST
Re: Fuck Pro Tools and anything owned by Avid. (DAW recommendations!) by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/19/2018, 5:19am PST
Status so far by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/19/2018, 6:33pm PST
You have to click the "play" button on each track, below where you think you are by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/19/2018, 7:22pm PST
Think of MIDI like a programmer. by Fullofkittens 12/19/2018, 8:19pm PST
Re: Fuck Pro Tools and anything owned by Avid. (DAW recommendations!) by Fullofkittens 12/19/2018, 8:31pm PST
Would u guys get a Behringer Nitro or Behringer Model D all things being equal? NT by Jack Bauer 12/09/2018, 10:08pm PST
I assume you mean Model D or Neutron? Probably Neutron. by Fullofkittens 12/10/2018, 2:33pm PST
I got a Model D! I have questions. by Ice Cream Jonsey 01/04/2019, 11:07pm PST
Gonna need more details by Fullofkittens 01/05/2019, 6:18am PST
First part: by Ice Cream Jonsey 01/05/2019, 9:17am PST
Re: First part: by Fullofkittens 01/05/2019, 9:48am PST
FoK: sko greatest poster in forum history? by Ice Cream Jonsey 01/05/2019, 11:41am PST
My pleasure, I learned this stuff initially from forum people as well. by Fullofkittens 01/05/2019, 1:16pm PST
Fuck, now I want a Neutron by Entropy Stew 01/11/2019, 8:11pm PST
Fuck, I bought a Minilogue NT by Entropy Stew 01/12/2019, 3:38pm PST
That looks neat. I wish I could justify another synth. by Fullofkittens 01/12/2019, 7:25pm PST
First patch by Entropy Stew 01/13/2019, 2:04pm PST
rad, reminds me of Carpenter Brut (which is rad) NT by Fullofkittens 01/14/2019, 4:47am PST
Found a Blade Runner cover on a minilogue by Entropy Stew 01/14/2019, 8:26am PST
Outstanding purchase. Now sell me your guitar. NT by Motherhead 01/14/2019, 1:27pm PST
FUCK, THEY JUST CAME OUT WITH A BETTER ONE by Entropy Stew 01/16/2019, 5:10am PST
Upon listening to the video, might be more of a side-grade than an upgrade by Entropy Stew 01/16/2019, 5:25am PST
Korg SP280BK ? by Ice Cream Jonsey 05/18/2019, 8:59pm PDT
USB == you can plug it straight into your computer w/o owning anything else. by Fullofkittens 05/20/2019, 5:13pm PDT
Thanks again! by Ice Cream Jonsey 05/21/2019, 10:55am PDT
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