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Re: I seriously doubt that's it, dude. by Vested Id 12/08/2019, 9:15pm PST
Mischief Chad wrote:

Yeah, boss/employee relationships are inherently fraught and that's the most stable footing you can take against her. But that doesn't explain why you compared her to Anthony Weiner, why you posted nudes without a NWS warning

You're not obtuse, you just make a point of not recognizing the obvious. It's shocking that you think I need to explain the Weiner connection, and I update the thread because the story is not over. See the quote beneath yours below.

Now I'm not being obtuse, I really don't know the full extent of your outrage, whether it extends to poly relationships, or bisexuality, or female promiscuity. But this isn't entirely about sexual harassment for you.


I already explained:

Is anyone enjoying this case study of institutional capture? wrote:

What appeals to me about Caltrops and anti-authoritarianism in general is that you can get to the truth, including the really difficult truths, in spite of overwhelming consensus. And now a consensus on supporting women and never ever judging someone's sexual behavior outside of pedophilia (for now) has left even the anti-authoritarians disarmed. Five seconds ago you would at least be able to say "Well she's a chaotic drunken slut but..." yada yada just an ethical issue, and now you can't even do that.


To talk about this more broadly: people have to willingly withhold judgement when it comes to unusual sexual behavior, and that's because there's always a question whether it's functional or evidence of some kind of underlying insanity or instability. You have these things called moral instincts that help you from being left in the cold in the face of New Cultural Developments; one of them is disgust. We suspend these things when it's right to do it, but credulity isn't a virtue in and of itself.

For example: there was real chaos after the alternative family experimentation of the 60s and 70s and we ended up mostly back where we started — two-parent homes as the safe and secure norm.

So you want to have those instincts available and not blunt them with some sad m'lady commitment to maximal anti-misogyny. I know a girl can be gay, you don't have to be a sniper to notice that a lot of gay women — Eileen Myles, Ellen DeGeneres, Miley Cyrus for a few days — have been touched by male evil in some way. So when a woman like Hill is fucking everybody, male and female, within arm's reach, eventually crossing an obvious ethical line, in addition to showing up drunk to meetings, there are a couple obvious moral reactions:

1. This bitch is insane and needs to get her act together
2. She's broken in some way and needs to change

You can think either of these things and still be a good person who believes in gay rights.

The absolute worst response is

3. She's queer and a woman, so, systemic oppression, let's resurrect her career.

Weiner charged ahead and ended up in jail, and that was without the entire fucking system enabling him. Ever seen Flight?

It's kinda hard to get worked up over a woman breaking the rules of her polycule


"Consenting adults!" not yet a punchline to some

when there's a drunken rapist on the supreme court getting ready to hobble the administrative state and a president who's bragged about his penchant for breaking into women's dressing rooms.


He raped nobody, Ford lied to protect Roe, and the fact the media and the DNC will keep that libel alive until they day he dies is a reason to consider never voting Democrat again. Pure evil.

Unlike Roy Moore, there's no narrow majority to defend that makes it conscionable to ignore Hill's indiscretions, and as far as your politics, a lot of regular people are eager to see the administrative state dismantled.

And it's damned infuriating that the dem establishment is willing to give up a blue vote in a swing district to avoid a minor embarrassment when the fact is it strengthens a party that routinely supports and covers up for pedos.


Hastert didn't get an exculpatory op-ed in the Times.
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    The nekkid age of government thanks to the internet by I couldn't be happier 10/19/2019, 11:53am PDT
    Finally lawmakers I can get behind NT by Mysterio 10/19/2019, 9:25pm PDT
    INBOX <siren><siren><siren> by Vested Id 10/22/2019, 2:54pm PDT
    Iron Cross tattoo on her crotch by Vested Id 10/24/2019, 2:44pm PDT
    Not being from Madison, I'm not sure how to react NT by Gotcha 10/27/2019, 11:01am PDT
    It's over by Vested Id 10/27/2019, 3:45pm PDT
        Re: It's over by Mysterious Stranger 10/29/2019, 3:30pm PDT
            Re: It's over by Vested Id 10/29/2019, 4:01pm PDT
                It's very uncommon for the whore to pay you afterwards, but it does happen. NT by Injustice 10/29/2019, 5:17pm PDT
                Blaming the MSM & jazz cigarettes for the gallons of jizz you've jerked to this. NT by Conservative Values 10/29/2019, 6:55pm PDT
                    Why did people ignore this story? by Vested Id 10/29/2019, 7:10pm PDT
                        We were at Halloween parties this weekend, not fapping at home to revenge porn NT by wheezing "whore! whore! whore!" 10/29/2019, 8:15pm PDT
                            Hmmm NT by Let's do the math 10/29/2019, 8:52pm PDT
                            And now we have some catching up to do. NT by Injustice 10/29/2019, 9:07pm PDT
                            Halloween's tomorrow boomer NT by Enjoy Trunk or Treat 10/30/2019, 7:57am PDT
                                Want to make sure I have this straight by Mysterious Stranger 10/30/2019, 8:06am PDT
                                    got his ass NT by fist pump 10/30/2019, 8:11am PDT
                                        The anonofag retards supporting each other is the most heart warming part of NT by caltrops 10/30/2019, 10:57am PDT
                                            Sick burn on those anonofags, anonofag! Booty Bump! NT by I hate anonofags because I am one 10/30/2019, 12:53pm PDT
                        Also the fucking OP's not work safe and you didn't label it, moron! NT by MM 10/30/2019, 3:48pm PDT
                            Yeah I did, what the fuck? NT by Vested Id 10/30/2019, 4:15pm PDT
        Well now we know why you bristle so much over making fun of incels. NT by Mischief Chad 10/29/2019, 5:34pm PDT
            The Katie Hill story fell into an interesting blind spot for a lot of people NT by Vested Id 10/29/2019, 5:51pm PDT
                "Interesting blind spot" by Mysterious Stranger 10/30/2019, 6:08am PDT
                By "blind spot" you mean "Who gives a shit?" by Mischief Maker 10/30/2019, 6:27am PDT
                    She's a female Anthony Weiner NT by Vested Id 10/30/2019, 11:30am PDT
                        *snicker* he said Weiner! Did you see these pix of her cooter??? NT by All conservatives are 13 years old. 10/30/2019, 12:55pm PDT
                            Something really big just happened NT by Vested Id 10/30/2019, 1:45pm PDT
    Coda by Vested Id 10/29/2019, 5:58pm PDT
        Re: Coda by Mysterious Stranger 10/30/2019, 6:05am PDT
            Re: Coda by Vested Id 10/31/2019, 12:56pm PDT
                From Thomas Jefferson to JFK, most of America's least worst politicians were NT by literal drunken sluts. 10/31/2019, 2:41pm PDT
                    In spite of all our aspirations for equality, boys aren't sluts NT by Vested Id 10/31/2019, 3:22pm PDT
                        Nonsense. Franklin was one of our fine nation's founding sluts by Roop 10/31/2019, 3:51pm PDT
                            He was a letch NT by Vested Id 10/31/2019, 4:08pm PDT
                                *fetch NT by Mysterio 10/31/2019, 9:03pm PDT
                            *lech NT by Vested Id 10/31/2019, 4:30pm PDT
                                He stores his soul in a phallactery worth 120,000 GP NT by Founding Father Folio 10/31/2019, 4:52pm PDT
                Krystal Ball weighs in by Mischief Maker 10/31/2019, 6:14pm PDT
                    Report it up front and save women like Ms. Hill the grief by Vested Id 10/31/2019, 7:10pm PDT
                        So you can get more jagoff material? NT by *fap* *fap* *fap* 10/31/2019, 7:55pm PDT
                            Who is jerking off? NT by Vested Id 10/31/2019, 10:08pm PDT
                                That's a pretty open-ended question. NT by Just the way I like them 8) 11/01/2019, 4:00pm PDT
        I take it everyone thinks Redstate should get the Gawker treatment for this. NT by Mischief Maker 10/31/2019, 6:14pm PDT
            For their restraint? NT by Vested Id 10/31/2019, 6:25pm PDT
    Apology tour by Vested Id 11/17/2019, 6:36pm PST
        Apparently -all- of this was a result of her husband's abuse NT by Women have no agency 11/17/2019, 8:01pm PST
            The only one on my side is the bloodsucking nazi :( NT by Vested Id 11/17/2019, 8:17pm PST
    New York Times op-ed by Vested Id 12/07/2019, 1:51pm PST
        Is anyone enjoying this case study of institutional capture? by Vested Id 12/07/2019, 2:30pm PST
            Dude, it was a thruple. The husband was a willing participant. What's to judge? NT by Mischief Chad 12/07/2019, 3:00pm PST
                What the hell are we talking about here? Just a "thruple"? by Vested Id 12/07/2019, 3:08pm PST
                    She's not. She stepped down on Pelosi's orders. NT by Mischief Chad 12/07/2019, 3:11pm PST
                        She has the party's blessing. by Vested Id 12/07/2019, 3:36pm PST
                            What, do you want her to be guillotined or something? NT by Mischief Chad 12/07/2019, 4:17pm PST
                                I want her to be contrite, say she's changing her ways, and disappear for a bit by Vested Id 12/07/2019, 4:46pm PST
                                    In other words, you want her to be cancelled. NT by Mischief Chad 12/07/2019, 4:54pm PST
                                        Either this is an ator or you're being extremely obtuse NT by Vested Id 12/07/2019, 5:14pm PST
                                            "I want her to be contrite." For what? by "obtuse" 12/07/2019, 7:32pm PST
                                                From dragging her staff into her disgusting sex life NT by Vested Id 12/07/2019, 8:01pm PST
                                                    What'd she do, have his lawyer pay a porn star hush money? That kinda staff drag NT by "obtuse" 12/07/2019, 9:27pm PST
                                                        People knew what they were getting with Trump NT by Vested Id 12/07/2019, 10:08pm PST
                                                    I seriously doubt that's it, dude. by Mischief Chad 12/08/2019, 8:17am PST
                                                        Re: I seriously doubt that's it, dude. by Mysterio Prime 12/08/2019, 9:42am PST
                                                        Re: I seriously doubt that's it, dude. by Vested Id 12/08/2019, 9:15pm PST
                                                            You know what I think's really going on in this thread? by Mischief Chad 12/08/2019, 10:06pm PST
                                                                I think you're a bigot and by Vested Id 12/08/2019, 10:10pm PST
                                                                    I'm disappointed in all of you. by Injustice 12/08/2019, 11:29pm PST
                                                                *10 hour jerk sesh to sissyification JOI* "feeling icky yet, rapetiles?" NT by Mysterio 12/09/2019, 7:44am PST
                                                                    It's all true. Rod Dreher save me! by MM 12/09/2019, 3:52pm PST
                                How 'bout not voting for new ethics rules that prohibit fucking Congress staff.. by ...while fucking Congress staff. 12/08/2019, 6:36pm PST
                                    Re: How 'bout not voting for new ethics rules that prohibit fucking Congress sta by Vested Id 12/08/2019, 9:24pm PST
                MM's 'sex at dawn' fantasies gone in a puff of banana bubbleberry vape smoke NT by Mysterio 12/07/2019, 4:36pm PST
                    Thanks, stupid. NT by - 12/07/2019, 4:57pm PST
                    It's been years since I mentioned that book. You've been stewing all this time? NT by Mischief Chad 12/08/2019, 8:39am PST
 
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