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Oh boy! If you get to double-post on this topic, SO DO I! by MM doesn't know who you are. 04/22/2020, 3:04pm PDT
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And here you are still pushing this conspiracy shit that the Illuminati rigged the primary because no way could the majority of people possibly not like Bernie. You know who else has chronic delusions of MSNBC and CNN brainwashing everyone? Fucking Trumpees. You know what's more likely than "star chambers" directing the media against Bernie? The rest of the country not being the UW-Madison campus.


Are you aware of The Labour Leaks? A report that just came out a week ago showing through emails and whatsapp messages that members of the Blair wing of the Labour party intentionally sabotaged their own party in 2017 to keep Jeremy Corbyn from becoming Prime Minister?

Far from a few ‘bad apples’ the messages expose systematic and sustained efforts to undermine the leadership by multiple figures in director-level positions.

For many what will make this material all the more appalling is that Labour was less than 2,500 votes away from forming a government in 2017, after winning 40% of the popular vote – the party’s best results since 1997.


Of course you aren't! Because you're a fucking bubble-headed centrist credulously lapping up everything oligarch media shovels into your brain without ever thinking, "Huh, aren't these the same people who fired reporters who had an anti-Iraq War stance while military contractor GE owned the network?" Nah! Anyone who questions the power structure is a Trumpee by definition.

And so here we are. Of all the fucking austerity democrats on that debate stage, you genius centrists had to choose the one visibly going senile... oh wait, let me use the official campaign language in the name of solidarity; you genius centrists had to choose the one with a progressively worsening stutter that makes him look like he's going senile. Oh man, I feel so much better about our chances of getting Trump out of the White House now!


And let me head you off here by saying I absolutely have standing because I did my part to stop this reactionary turn. I worked full time for the Kerry campaign in 2004 working 18 hour days 7 days a week trying to drag John Kerry across the finish line because Bush jr. was a monster and we had to get him out of the White House for the sake of the Supreme Court. Wisconsin went to Kerry at twice the margin it went to Gore in 2000 so I did my job but there's only so much a talented campaign staff can do with a weak candidate. I've been screaming against Biden (maybe not here) because he's even weaker.

Lemme give you a tour of what's going to happen in a few months. In 2004, Howard Dean was the insurgent candidate with a youth-driven campaign fueled and funded by an online infrastructure. Dean wasn't a huge leftist by any stretch of the imagination, but he positioned himself as anti-war and was a candidate who DIDN'T (unlike Biden) vote to invate Iraq. But then he did an interview where he talked about the need to break up media monopolies. Big mistake. A couple weeks later he did a rally speech to get his people fired up and attempted to finish with a "yeah!" whoop, but his voice must have been a little hoarse so it came out weird. The networks picked up on that hoarse soundbite and The Dean Scream was born. A completely media-manufactured non-issue that they played incessantly on every broadcast to paint him as a crazy person and destroy his campaign. John Kerry, meanwhile, body-surfed to the nomination on a sea of universally glowing praise from the media.

Wow, with such universal media praise, Kerry just sailed to victory, right? Wrong. Once Dean was out of the picture, the media's treatment of Kerry changed dramatically. It didn't help that Kerry was a gaffe-machine and so like Biden and Hillary he disappeared for weeks at a time, leaving the door wide open for Republicans to paint him themselves. Every time I spoke to an undecided voter I was on the back foot because they said, "Oh yeah, John Kerry, I heard he's a wishy-washy-flip-flopper-with-no-clear-stand-on-the-issues." Then the swift boat veterans for truth came out. It was just one negative campaign ad in a sea of such ads. But the media picked it up and aplified it a thousandfold for free. News programs replayed the ad in full, newspapers printed complete transcripts of the ad front-page above-the-fold. It turned out to be a lie, and the military officially denied any accusation that Kerry hadn't earned his purple heart, but the geniuses running the 2004 campaign, many of whom are working for the Biden campaign right now, decided that instead of responding they were going to wait for October. Wait for October, they told us. Keep a low profile 'til then and then Blammo! We'll spin up an enthusiastic base in a single month. Didn't exactly work out that way, and Bush jr. walked away not only with an electoral college win but a plurality of the vote, too.


Bernie made the mistake giving a similar soud-bite about the need to break up media monopolies, giving birth to the Bernie bro snake emoji holocaust. Christ Matthews cried that he was gonna be dragged into Central Park and shot! Chuck Todd said the bros posting corncobs in his twitter mentions were just like the brownshirts! Whatzerface sighed dejectedly when it was clear Bernie won the Nevada primary at her location. Meanwhile Joe Biden got an absolute tongue bath.

But now that Bernie's out, how long you wanna bet the media today is gonna be able to resist Biden's rape charge? Or his crackhead son Hunter? Or his brother's FBI investigation? Or the simple fact that he sounds like a babbling idiot who's falling apart and had a blood vessel burst in his eye during a town hall?


You idiot centrists. You've been swimming in the Ukraine-gate scandal for months but never had those two synapses connect to say, "waitaminit! Trump was doing oppo research on Biden's son getting an insanely lucrative job at a crooked oil company shortly after his son was kicked out of the Navy (joined at age 40) for failing his first drug test (tested positive for cocaine, blamed it on bumming a smoke off a rando who must have laced it with coke), maybe if Hillary's campaign was sunk by her failing to follow an arcane cyber security protocol that it turns out nobody followed, maybe Biden is vulnerable to being hurt by this obviously smelly nepotism case?" You dumb fucks.

Shit, the Lev Parnas recordings included a hidden mic conversation where Trump talked about what a relief it was in 2016 that Hillary didn't pick Bernie as her VP because Bernie neutralized Trump's strengths on trade. "He's the only one I didn't want her to pick."



I remember the moment in 2016 when ice water went down my spine and I first thought, "oh shit, Hillary's gonna blow it!" It was at the start of the first debate where a methed-up Trump in full sniffing form blasted her on NAFTA and the destructive impact it had on the rust-belt, and she responded with a pathetic, "that's just your opinion!" Here's the hell of it, Hillary never voted for NAFTA, she's just married to the guy who signed it into law. Biden voted for NAFTA. The black vote in Milwaukee was depressed because Hillary said, "super predators" in defense of the crime bill. Joe Biden wrote the damn bill. The guy recreates all the weaknesses of Kerry and Clinton combined with his awful record. Plus C-SPAN is a goldmine for the republicans because he was a notorious flapjaw back in the day.


I want Trump out of office. But you idiot centrists keep picking the weakest goddamn candidates because your Teevee tells you they're "safe." Mike Dukakis, the "pragmatic progressive" instead of Jessie Jackson. Humiliating defeat. "Safe" John Kerry instead of Howard Dean. Humiliating defeat. "Safe" Hillary Clinton instead of Bernie Sanders. Humiliating defeat. Do you centrists have no capacity for pattern recognition? (Bill Clinton was buoyed by Ross Perot's 3rd party run in both his campaigns, siphoning more votes from his opponents than Ralph Nader and Jill Stein ever got in all their elections combined. Barack Obama ran as an anti-establishment candidate breaking through the color barrier on a platform of "Change" and was only revealed as a right-centrist after being elected).


I know why you centrists have so much more venom for leftists than you do for fascists. We rob you of your precious moral high ground. It's easy to look like the good guy on climate when your opposition is James Inhofe bringing a snowball into congress and saying, "DUH! SNOW! THERE'S NO SNOW WHEN IT'S WARM! SO HOW CAN THERE BE GLOBAL WARMING IF THERE'S A SNOWBALL HERE?" But when a crowd of Sunrise movement kids occupies your office begging you to sign on to the Green New Deal and you've got to gently tell them to fuck off, suddenly you're the asshole. You can virtue signal about how you won't misgender wealthy right-wing Caitlyn Jenner, but when some leftists say, "hey, we should have medicare for all so trans people who aren't filthy-rich retired-athlete reality-stars can afford the gender treatments they need" you've got to be the monster saying, "HOWYOUGUNNAPAYFURIT?" right after printing trillions of dollars to pump into wall street at the drop of a hat. You can totally fundraise on "SLAY KWEEN" for ripping up your copy of Trump's deranged speech, but when some leftist tells you to use your majority in the house to block Trump's authorization for use of military force to start yet another war in the middle east, you've got to look like a craven crony of the military industrial complex.

When things were looking bad for the Sanders campaign, he used his list to raise $2 million for Covid treatment. He stayed in the campaign until the Wisconsin primary to drive the runout that helped Jill Karovsky claim a state supreme court seat from an incumbent republican. Joe Biden, meanwhile, campaigned in favor of the Republican governor who poisoned Flint, Michigan. We're better people than you and you know it.


And morality aside, leftists are smarter than you centrists. At the drop of a hat the average Sanders supporter can name three issues that they support Sanders on, with detailed stories about how these issues affect people's lives. Ask a Biden supporter for specifics and you get, "Duh... values?" or "He's gonna get us back into the utterly toothless and inadequate Paris Climate Accord, (while ramping up fracking!)" or "I just wanna go back to the days of Obama when I didn't have to pay attention to the news and could just go to brunch."

Meanwhile the Centrist leadership is doing their damndest to get Trump reelected...


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At this point I've let so much venom out of my system I no longer have the urge to continue typing this anti-centrist diatribe, even though I could go on for twenty more pages. This has been incredibly cathartic. My biggest reason I'm voting for Biden is so we can go back to an arrangement where you miserable centrists are the enemy of the left instead of our dumb lab partner.

And if at any point you've taken exception to some of the things I said about you and want to correct me about some of your beliefs, don't bother. I don't know who this is and I don't care, you were just a vector for my now-spent rage. Like Joe Biden said to Tara Reid, "you're nothing to me."

And if you really want to win in November, take all the time you were going to waste whining about bernie bros and use it instead to phone bank for Joe. Prove me wrong! Please!
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        Keep clutching that fading photo of Mitt Romney while the world changes around u by blackwater 04/22/2020, 2:29pm PDT NEW
        Oh boy! If you get to double-post on this topic, SO DO I! by MM doesn't know who you are. 04/22/2020, 3:04pm PDT NEW
            Wow, that was a long post. by blackwater 04/25/2020, 1:33pm PDT NEW
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                Re: Wow, that was a long post. by MM 04/25/2020, 2:14pm PDT NEW
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