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Re: Maybe they can hire more aberrant geniuses to fix it by IPB 05/18/2020, 11:43pm PDT
blackwater wrote:

Like if Ads had been in the driver's seat, why would they have cancelled Google Reader, or let Google Books stagnate, or made such a mess of chat?


Speak softly and carry a big stick. What other branch would be so invested in China? If the US government hadn't intervened, I don't think they would have pulled Dragonfly.

Like Google delenda est wrote, ads pushed the direction of the company, whether or not that power was exercised directly. The Stanford genderfluids are allowed their projects and the adults work in advertising. C-suite will dump ridiculous ideas on everyone except them.

That doesn't mean Google doesn't waste opportunities, especially when the stakes are smaller than 1 billion people. Google hired the guy who made 4chan and that site has better advertising for gamers than Google Stadia, which is to say any. Google is eating the leftovers from AWS because they took years to offer an EC2 equivalent. They were so desperate to have Cloud up and running they hired the least abberant people they could find:


In many ways, Google has. Greene has hired more people for the Google Cloud group in the last two years than any other division in Google’s parent Alphabet. Many of those hires come from the staid world of enterprise computing. Indeed, browse through Google Cloud employees on LinkedIn and you’ll see enterprise plastered all over their pedigrees: Red Hat, Cisco, IBM, SAP, VMware, you name it. If the company is big, boring, and profitable, current Google Cloud employees have likely worked there.

But by other measures, efforts to make Google more enterprise-friendly have failed, largely because the bulk of its employee base simply doesn’t care about the enterprise. Google remains very engineer-driven, more likely to tell customers why they’re wrong to prefer a particular approach to a business problem than to listen to the customers and try to solve it for them.


blackwater wrote:

My take on Alphabet is that Larry and Sergey wanted Sundar to be CEO of the "boring stuff" (that makes a lot of money) so that they could do the "cool stuff" (that loses a lot of money). So they created a corporate structure where he could be kind of the mini-boss of just the boring Google division, and they could be the real leaders managing the whole portfolio of companies, building hot-air balloons to deliver internet, developing AI, curing death, etc.

Now, of course, Sundar has control of both Alphabet and Google, and the whole split looks kind of pointless.


Gates was smart enough to step down from MS before heading the Gates Foundation. It takes a certain savvy to go from Indian poverty to CEO and turn a snotty Silicon Valley offer into power. I get the sense Sundar is a lot more aware and critical of the dynamics at Google than he lets on.
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