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Re: Almost laughed out loud at the programmer tunnel vision description by blackwater 05/19/2020, 11:15pm PDT
Google delenda est wrote:

IPB wrote:

Google remains very engineer-driven, more likely to tell customers why they’re wrong to prefer a particular approach to a business problem than to listen to the customers and try to solve it for them.
This is a perfect profile of every bad programmer. "You're doing it wrong", well guess what asshole? You're NOT the client and NOT the end-user. Try engineering a another solution, genius.


At a big (or even really a medium-sized) company, developers aren't responsible for making the call about how to respond to customer requests. Management decides how they want to respond.

None of the big public cloud providers are really great at customer service, honestly. Google is probably the worst, but not because of their developers. It's a management thing.

Google delenda est wrote:

Senior SEs do get paid well, yet advertising will still do better & have more power. Only they get to be drunk kids with the company card 24/7/365 and face no justice. They also continue to actually make and maintain deals. Of course, that all leads to its own unique problems not solved by javascript, blink, or material design.


The advertising team at Google doesn't really "do deals." They don't really have a sales team in the normal way. Instead, they maintain a platform that customers use.

Google delenda est wrote:

That doesn't mean Google doesn't waste opportunities, especially when the stakes are smaller than 1 billion people. Google hired the guy who made 4chan and that site has better advertising for gamers than Google Stadia, which is to say any.


Ha, that's actually pretty funny. Looking at Wikipedia, Moot works on Google Maps now. Probably trying not to get cancelled while he works his McJob.

According to Wikipedia, owning 4chan was not exactly lucrative:
Wikipedia wrote:


In February 2009, the Washington Post reported that Poole had attended Virginia Commonwealth University for a few semesters before dropping out. It reported that Poole was living with his mother while looking for a way to make money from owning 4chan.



Google is eating the leftovers from AWS because they took years to offer an EC2 equivalent. They were so desperate to have Cloud up and running they hired the least abberant people they could find:


According to some friends who would know, the hiring bar is much lower for Google Cloud than for the rest of the company.


Google definitely has the infrastructure and the talent to maybe pull it off. Obviously it would need to follow a YouTube-like model of local datacenters to driver a low(er) latency experience. For now it seems to be the same as the other attempts in that you can run a great demo in SoCal...


Dude, Google has like a zillion data centers around the world. They have some handicaps in this race, but lack of local data centers is definitely not one.


The Stadia Question appears ripe for a new CALTROPS long (medium?) bet.


I'll take one side of that. I bet they shut it down OR spin it off within 10 years.

It takes a certain savvy to go from Indian poverty to CEO and turn a snotty Silicon Valley offer into power. I get the sense Sundar is a lot more aware and critical of the dynamics at Google than he lets on.
Yeah, he's a shark. No way he just happens to end up the face of the company.


Meh, I think you're overthinking it. Larry and Sergey didn't want another Fucking White Male heading the company (diversity!) and they wanted someone who wouldn't threaten their grand vision.

Sundar kind of reminds me of Tim Cook in some ways.
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