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Examples of "manual labor jobs" that will probably disappear by 2040:
- drivers of things that go to a predictable place (cabs, buses, long haul trucks). There are over a half million long haul truckers in the US alone and none of them are needed. You just need somebody to maintain the trucks and keep them on the road. The existence of Uber and Lyft drivers is a temporary bandaid for a tech debt issue: communities haven't yet adequately accommodated self-driving cars and the driving tech isn't quite there yet.
- people physically working in places like gas stations. (Will gas stations even exist in 2040? Hopefully not!) Charging stations do not typically have a human babysitter. They need somebody to monitor and maintain them but that's way fewer people.
- the number of people needed in fast food and service industries will be greatly reduced when self-serve ordering online becomes the norm. McDonald's is already trying to get you to stop using humans in this process. The making of a Big Mac is not skilled work; it can clearly be replaced with an automaton (and probably has a greater chance of getting your order right): all you need is someone to clean and stock the machines. The only reason this hasn't been done already is that our society devalues the lives of the people in those jobs to the point that it's cheaper to employ them than it would be to build a slightly less cheap robot to replace them.
- I personally am quite skeptical that grocery stores are needed. I haven't set foot in one since March 13th, 2020, nor has anyone in my family. We order our groceries online and it appears on our doorstep. Currently, that process involves multiple humans (tech debt issue). You need people monitoring and maintaining those processes but not only is there no need for anyone "stocking shelves"...you don't even need the shelves!
- Garbage pickup...
- Mail delivery...
...the list goes on and on. Mike Rowe keeps on telling people to remember to consider a skilled trade rather than getting a Music Theory degree, which is smart but I would tell today's high school graduates to go to a community college program in robotics and be one of the workers in 2030 replacing a few hundred workers from 2020. And I would tell people in those industries to do the same thing: if you're driving a garbage truck today, I'd think about getting one of those robotics certificates in the next ten years. But there will not be enough of those jobs to go around. |
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Ask Caltrops: What is your opinion about Universal Basic Income? by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/19/2020, 3:54pm PST 
Theoretically good, but libertarians want to use it as a Trojan Horse. by Mischief Maker 12/19/2020, 4:31pm PST
came here to say this, thanks MM NT by Saltlord 12/22/2020, 11:21am PST
You want an informed opinion or just opinion by Vested Id 12/19/2020, 4:54pm PST
Neither really, just curious for the takes of those here :) NT by Ice Cream Jonsey 12/20/2020, 2:59pm PST
It's a solution to a problem that we don't actually have. by blackwater 12/20/2020, 3:20pm PST
STEM-lord humanities bashing is how you get wide-eyed Jordan Peterson followers. NT by Thrz more 2 logic than a poker face 12/20/2020, 4:22pm PST
Jordan Peterson is a humanities professor by blackwater 12/20/2020, 9:33pm PST
Exactly. STEM-lords get their minds blown by Peterson's humanities 101 shit. by Humans are more than just cogs. 12/20/2020, 9:46pm PST
"self driving" cars by laudablepuss 12/21/2020, 10:25am PST
Re: "self driving" cars by blackwater 12/30/2020, 9:12am PST
Re: "self driving" cars by laudablepuss 12/31/2020, 6:54am PST
The point is we are continuously approaching X by X being total automation 12/31/2020, 12:47pm PST
It's the only humanitarian answer to increasing automation by bleach free 12/21/2020, 3:15am PST
Robots are not going to do everything for us by Vested Id 12/21/2020, 9:15am PST
I think they'll figure out how to make robots fold clothes in our lifetime by blackwater 12/29/2020, 11:47pm PST
It's not the complete elimination of work, it's the reduction in effort needed. by Fullofkittens 12/30/2020, 6:43am PST
You're missing the point. by blackwater 12/30/2020, 9:21am PST
Re: You're missing the point. by The Happiness Engine 12/31/2020, 4:59pm PST
Re: You're missing the point. by Vested Id 12/31/2020, 7:21pm PST
UNKNOWN ITEM IN BAGGING AREA. PLEASE REMOVE ITEM. NT by (self-driving car kills woman) 12/21/2020, 9:55am PST
Same day, human drivers kill 86 NT by I prefer the 1 12/22/2020, 10:53am PST
It's about Wall Street having too much $ and looking for SOMETHING to invest in. NT by Also maybe break the Teamsters? 12/22/2020, 2:13pm PST
I'm a fucking moron who can't compare dissimilar sample sizes NT by Previous poster 12/23/2020, 5:06pm PST
I'm not sure where the miscommunication occurred by Please let's try this again 01/01/2021, 6:55pm PST
Re: I'm not sure where the miscommunication occurred by Ice Cream Jonsey 01/01/2021, 7:32pm PST
(Tesla crashes into highway barrier) NT by So safe and effective 01/01/2021, 9:11pm PST
Human driver texts while changing lanes by 5 fatalitles including your own 01/01/2021, 10:10pm PST
Okay, keep waiting for a self-driving car to get you to the vaccination center NT by There should be one by in 23 years 01/02/2021, 9:07am PST
Grr can't believe drumph stopped the UBI, good thing Biden will set us str8 NT by Epilepsy Foundation of America 12/21/2020, 4:05pm PST
Base livable income for everyone, more if you work. by pinback 12/21/2020, 10:58am PST
The pitch in Annie Lowrey's book GIVE PEOPLE MONEY is $10k/yr/person by Fullofkittens 12/30/2020, 5:04am PST
I think we can do quite a bit better than that, don't you? NT by pinback 12/30/2020, 12:45pm PST
No. NT by Are you people insane? 12/31/2020, 10:55pm PST
This sad person thinks we can't redistribute resporces better than Finland NT by psych ward 01/01/2021, 9:32am PST
We definitely can't by Vested Id 01/01/2021, 2:15pm PST
This racial purity argument is the stupidest shit. Militant labor built by Scandinavian socialism. 01/01/2021, 3:48pm PST
It's not a racial purity argument by Vested Id 01/01/2021, 6:34pm PST
I would love you to link the most "whipped" academic citing this bullshit. by Mischief Maker 01/01/2021, 7:54pm PST
The real reason we can't be Swedish is because not even Swedes are Swedish NT by All Nordic policies going right 01/01/2021, 8:59pm PST
Re: I would love you to link the most "whipped" academic citing this bullshit. by Vested Id 01/01/2021, 9:30pm PST
Give black people an inch, and Birth of a Nation comes true by Vested Id, fucking idiot 01/02/2021, 10:24am PST
Where is the rest NT by Vested Id 01/02/2021, 10:40pm PST
RE: The Swedish Hive Mind by Mischief Maker 01/01/2021, 6:07pm PST
I'm for it, and it "replacing" anything other than disability is a little silly. NT by Horus Truthteller 12/23/2020, 11:40am PST
Not silly at all by Vested Id 12/23/2020, 6:46pm PST
Too much of the work being done today is counter-productive. by Injustice 12/31/2020, 2:35pm PST
he admitted to crying NT by what a bussy 12/31/2020, 10:19pm PST
Environmentalism is another thing that makes UBI impractical. by blackwater 01/01/2021, 2:36pm PST
What does any of that have to do with the practicality of a UBI? NT by Scandinavian socialism. 01/01/2021, 3:50pm PST
How DOESN"T it relate? NT by I Hate Epic 01/01/2021, 10:48pm PST
ha ha ha by The Happiness Engine 01/03/2021, 3:21pm PST
Weird post, dude by blackwater 01/04/2021, 12:15pm PST
WEIRD POST NT by DUDE 01/04/2021, 8:03pm PST
I remember when petulant aggression was great by Vested Id 01/05/2021, 12:03pm PST
Re: I remember when petulant aggression was great by Vested Id 01/05/2021, 12:08pm PST
WEIRD POST NT by TRANS DUDE 01/05/2021, 4:21pm PST
He's a Caltrops nobody who discovered a gimmick to get noticed by Vested Id go home 01/05/2021, 8:35am PST
Ahhhh, he's a good man. NT by Horus Truthteller 01/05/2021, 11:03am PST
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