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Weird post, dude by blackwater 01/04/2021, 12:15pm PST
The Happiness Engine wrote:

Just another example of bad-faith cherrypicking:


Weird post, dude. Are you seriously arguing that workplace safety hasn't improved over time? It's pretty well documented that it has.

During the years between World War I and World War II the combination of higher accident costs along with the institutionalization of safety concerns in large firms began to show results. Railroad employee fatality rates declined steadily after 1910 and at some large companies such as DuPont and whole industries such as steel making (see Table 3) safety also improved dramatically. Largely independent changes in technology and labor markets also contributed to safety as well. The decline in labor turnover meant fewer new employees who were relatively likely to get hurt, while the spread of factory electrification not only improved lighting but reduced the dangers from power transmission as well. In coal mining the shift from underground work to strip mining also improved safety. Collectively these long-term forces reduced manufacturing injury rates about 38 percent between 1926 and 1939 (see Table 4).

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The economic boon and associated labor turnover during World War II worsened work safety in nearly all areas of the economy, but after 1945 accidents again declined as long-term forces reasserted themselves (Table 4). In addition, after World War II newly powerful labor unions played an increasingly important role in work safety. In the 1960s however economic expansion again led to rising injury rates and the resulting political pressures led Congress to establish the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) and the Mine Safety and Health Administration in 1970. The continuing problem of mine explosions also led to the foundation of the Mine Safety and Health Administration (MSHA) that same year. The work of these agencies had been controversial but on balance they have contributed to the continuing reductions in work injuries after 1970.17


OSHA didn't even exist as a concept until the 1970s. Are you seriously claiming that things haven't gotten safer since the 1930s when the Empire State was built?

The Happiness Engine wrote:

It was projected that 110 people would die building the Empire State building, but only 5 did, so therefore it was a murder-machine from which we can extrapolate the entire last 100 years.


I'm not sure what you're objecting to here. It was a murder machine compared with modern construction methods. Do you think people walk into the planning office today estimating 110 deaths on the new thing that they're building? Or that 5 deaths would be considered par for the course today?

The Huffington Post calls this the "darker legacy of an era marked by rapid growth and virtually no regulations" and for once, I am inclined to agree. The link even comes with a dose of Orange Man Bad, I'm sure you'll like it.

Unlike today, where no one ever died again.

Grow the fuck up. You don't believe what you write, it's boring, why bother?


What are you trying to prove with this link? Two construction workers having an accident doesn't disprove the idea that construction has gotten safer over time. What is it that you think I "don't believe" about what I write?
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