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My take by ToutSuite 01/02/2003, 9:35am PST
I thought it was a great movie.

Usual disclosures: I haven't read/am not planning on reading/make fun of people who have read any of Tolkien's overlong and overimportant tomes. I once struggled through the first chapter of "Dune." Does that count?

The books seem to be ruining the movies for a lot of people. Luckily, Peter Jackson isn't letting them stand in his way; he's got a job to do, and he's just telling a good story. For example. we don't need to see Gimli, Legolas, and Aragorn sitting around a campfire eating a rabbit with six legs and tusks coming out of its mouth to know they've been tracking the orcs for a while. A few ellipses here and there are fine, and necessary.

As I'm better than all of you who have read the book, I can only approach the movie as it stands. The story moves briskly. The important plot points are easily followed. The pace is varied enough to make sitting through the seemingly interminable elf recap a mere rest-stop en route to the next battle scene. The battle scenes, for their part, are well-directed and the shift in tides of the long battle at Helm's Deep are clear. Jackson has become more adept at foreshadowing. Where the first LotR movie was rather clumsy in its attempts to lay out important plot points in advance ("we should go in the mines" "but the mines are dangerous!" "shit, we can't go in the snow anymore, we'd better head down to the mines." "Did I mention the mines are dangerous?"), Two Towers seems more natural.

Finally, no one's mentioned the very best thing about Two Towers, which is the Gollum. As a technical achievement, it's lightyears ahead of anything anyone else has done. Beyond that, it's a great character, three-dimensional in every sense of the phrase. Kudos to Andy Serkis and Weta - they've set the standard for all CG creatures from this point forward. Speaking of which, the Gollum is everything Jar-Jar Binks should have been:

1. It looks great. There were only a few times where the integration with the practical elements in a scene weren't spot on, but these were fleeting
2. It had real emotional depth.
3. It wasn't in the Star Wars movies (ha ha, get it? Because Jar-Jar shouldn't have been in the... fuck off, fags)
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So, anyway, like I was saying (LOTR sux0rz) by laudablepuss 12/23/2002, 5:16pm PST NEW
    Re: So, anyway, like I was saying (LOTR sux0rz) by mrs. johnson 12/23/2002, 6:00pm PST NEW
        Re: So, anyway, like I was saying (LOTR sux0rz) by laudablepuss, aka "mysterio" (heh) 12/23/2002, 6:24pm PST NEW
    Re: So, anyway, like I was saying (LOTR sux0rz) by mrs. johnson 12/23/2002, 6:01pm PST NEW
        Sorry about that, I got lots of weird errors, and the first post didn't show up. n/T NT by mrs. johnson 12/23/2002, 6:01pm PST NEW
    Stop, just...stop. You only make me yearn for Tatters. by CrackerBarrel 12/24/2002, 9:04pm PST NEW
        Re: Stop, just...stop. You only make me yearn for Tatters. by laudablepuss 12/31/2002, 7:00pm PST NEW
    My planethate response to your planethate post by FABIO 01/01/2003, 6:04am PST NEW
    What I thought was my argument-ending reply on Planet Hate... by ToutSuite 01/01/2003, 1:36pm PST NEW
        Re: What I thought was my argument-ending reply on Planet Hate... by Zseni 01/01/2003, 2:13pm PST NEW
            Re: What I thought was my argument-ending reply on Planet Hate... by TAFKAM 01/06/2003, 2:15pm PST NEW
        my thoughts (spoilers duh) by veronica 01/01/2003, 2:49pm PST NEW
            Re: my thoughts (spoilers duh) by laudablepuss 01/02/2003, 1:22pm PST NEW
                Re: my thoughts (spoilers duh) by ToutSuite 01/02/2003, 4:36pm PST NEW
                    Re: my thoughts (spoilers duh) by mrs. johnson 01/02/2003, 5:05pm PST NEW
                        Movies suck now. by Fussbett 01/02/2003, 6:02pm PST NEW
                            Re: Movies suck now. NT by Pasty guys with dreads are fags n/T 01/03/2003, 9:07pm PST NEW
        Reason for Liv Tyler's scene by Mischief Maker 01/01/2003, 10:58pm PST NEW
        Well by Senor Barborito 01/02/2003, 6:10am PST NEW
            Re: Well by Bananadine 01/02/2003, 12:22pm PST NEW
        My take by ToutSuite 01/02/2003, 9:35am PST NEW
            Re: My take by Senor Barborito 01/02/2003, 10:42am PST NEW
            Re: My take by laudablepuss 01/02/2003, 1:42pm PST NEW
                Re: My take by junior allen 01/02/2003, 2:17pm PST NEW
                    Re: My take by laudablepuss 01/02/2003, 2:55pm PST NEW
                        Re: My take by mrs. johnson 01/02/2003, 5:01pm PST NEW
                            Re: My take by Bodybag 01/02/2003, 6:43pm PST NEW
                                Re: My take by ToutSuite 01/02/2003, 7:47pm PST NEW
                                    Re: My take by Bodybag 01/02/2003, 8:55pm PST NEW
                        Re: My take by Bill Dungsroman, HSW 01/03/2003, 11:42am PST NEW
            BG in Gangs of New York. by Fussbett 01/02/2003, 8:06pm PST NEW
                Also: SPOILERS(NT) by Bodybag 01/02/2003, 8:51pm PST NEW
                    It's not a spoiler. by Fussbett 01/02/2003, 9:05pm PST NEW
                        We can't take the risk. ES, delete! by Ray, of Light 01/02/2003, 10:58pm PST NEW
                            I CANT READ THIS THREAD. HAVE NOT SEEN MOVIE YET -nt- by Entropy Stew 01/03/2003, 11:29pm PST NEW
            Re: My take by Chairman Nematode 01/03/2003, 12:04am PST NEW
        Re: What I thought was my argument-ending reply on Planet Hate... by Ice Cream Jonsey 01/02/2003, 3:08pm PST NEW
    One big improvement of TTT over FOTR by Mischief Maker 01/05/2003, 5:41pm PST NEW
        Suspension of belief ay? n/T NT by mrs. johnson 01/05/2003, 6:05pm PST NEW
            Fucking Canadians NT by Mischief Moose 01/06/2003, 1:50pm PST NEW
 
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