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Re: Well by Bananadine 01/02/2003, 12:22pm PST
Senor Barborito wrote:

Length: went fine for me. Movie moves fast. Drop some of the crap, though, and add a three-minute sequence of Sam and Frodo stumbling/toiling over 5-6 completely different terrains, with 'wearying travel' music on so that the audience really gets a sense of the achingly long travel time involved here - the entire story is supposed to take *8 FUCKING YEARS*, folks.


With you on this--there's more trouble with the length and arrangement of scenes than there is with the movie's overall length. As one of those guys who would be willing to sit through a truly complete recreation of the books (in, say, five six-hour shifts), I am glad to recommend the Fellowship of the Ring Special Extended Edition DVD set, which extends things by a much more manageable half-hour or so. It's still a damn long movie to sit through, but if you didn't think the first one was too long and you've got thirty bucks to blow it's definitely worth a look. Presumably they'll be doing the same with the other two movies.

By the way, I'm not a huge fanboy. I'm just really good at sitting in a chair and looking at something. :(

Ents. Ents were a huge fucking letdown. WETA took the obvious route here and compared to every other visual in the movie the ents just look terrible and, if you're a modeler of any kind, horribly fucking cliched. I was nearly in tears. I'm not sure what I was looking for, but I know that's not it - I had pretty much the same weak specifications for the appearance of the Balrog, and on that score WETA came through. It was NOT a cheesy fire-demon. The Ents were cheesy with a capital C.


And judging these characters on a less visual level, I ended up with preferences just opposite to yours. I love ents, and what I love about them was represented well in the movie: They have a perspective on the world that is charmingly alien to that of the story's heroes, and they're FIGHTING TREES. When Pippin said something stupid to Treebeard and Treebeard replied with "That doesn't make much sense to me, but then again, you're very small," it came across as something other than slapstick-level humor for once, because it fit his character. There could have been more showing of ents and they could have looked better, but I liked them.

Also: Hurons? Where the fuck where the Hurons? Weren't they supposed to eat some huge fucking army at some point?


Dunno whether my long-faded memory of a thorough reading is a match for your pre-cybernetic recollection of a skimming, but I think it's huorns, and I think they would have been too much for the movie to explain, given the short time it devoted to the ents at all.

No Elijah Wood in your orgy list?
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        Reason for Liv Tyler's scene by Mischief Maker 01/01/2003, 10:58pm PST NEW
        Well by Senor Barborito 01/02/2003, 6:10am PST NEW
            Re: Well by Bananadine 01/02/2003, 12:22pm PST NEW
        My take by ToutSuite 01/02/2003, 9:35am PST NEW
            Re: My take by Senor Barborito 01/02/2003, 10:42am PST NEW
            Re: My take by laudablepuss 01/02/2003, 1:42pm PST NEW
                Re: My take by junior allen 01/02/2003, 2:17pm PST NEW
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                        Re: My take by mrs. johnson 01/02/2003, 5:01pm PST NEW
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                        Re: My take by Bill Dungsroman, HSW 01/03/2003, 11:42am PST NEW
            BG in Gangs of New York. by Fussbett 01/02/2003, 8:06pm PST NEW
                Also: SPOILERS(NT) by Bodybag 01/02/2003, 8:51pm PST NEW
                    It's not a spoiler. by Fussbett 01/02/2003, 9:05pm PST NEW
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