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The Zionist Media Conspiracy
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by Rafiki 10/26/2021, 11:07pm PDT |
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Mischief Maker wrote:
That said, I came away from it wondering how someone who hadn't read the books would be able to follow the plot, so much gets glossed over so fast.
With what was presented in the movie, the plot so far wasn't hard to follow (if that's what you meant). I get who is who and what's going on, I just felt like the movie didn't give me much of a reason to care. Paul, to me, was a plank of wood with hallucinations. His dad is fairy-tale good and Baron Harkonnen fairy-tale evil as far as personalities so it's easy to know who I'm supposed to root for, but take a step back and what I ultimately see is two rich families fighting over an exploitable resource on another planet. If Jeff Bezos and Richard Branson started lobbing missiles at each other, sure it would be newsworthy but I don't really care if two billionaires kill each other. I'd be more invested in the people who are the collateral damage around them, which is probably why I liked Javier Bardem's scene the most out of everything.
If you were part of the sandpeople, what really happened in the movie? One group of rich assholes gets replaced by what you presume to be another group of rich assholes. Duke Atreides is portrayed as a nice, humble guy, but he doesn't do anything for the natives before he dies, so whether or not he lives is a wash. Then the previous rich assholes resume control of the land. From the standpoint of the natives, nothing changed and nothing was lost.
Outside of Paul and his mom, who cares if his dad dies? What are the consequences, did the movie say? Does his home planet collapse into disarray? Did their entire society transfer to Arrakis and then get wiped out in the Harkonnen invasion? Is there some massive ripple effect across the galaxy?
This is why I was ultimately bored and didn't feel like I had a reason to care. I didn't even realize this was only part one until I saw it in the title screen, so I get two and a half hours of setup with no payoff involving events I'm not invested in. Maybe once the 2nd half is filmed and released in several years the whole story will come together in a satisfying way for me. I imagine if you already know the complete story and how all the dots connect then this could be a good adaptation so far.
As an aside, the tech explanations help. There wasn't anything mentioned about lasers causing nuclear explosions if they touch a shield, and I didn't realize the dart was some kind of tiny drone. I understood from the sparring scene between Paul and Josh Brolin that slow-moving attacks could get through the shield so I thought I understood why they were using swords. But then I see lasers and what I thought was a futuristic blow dart and suddenly none of it made any sense. |
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Dune (2021) by Rafiki 10/22/2021, 9:46am PDT 
I also know nothing of the source material, and I thought it was really good. by pinback 10/24/2021, 4:23pm PDT
Re: I also know nothing of the source material, and I thought it was rea by Rafiki 10/24/2021, 7:44pm PDT
The stillsuits looked like they were all about to go spraypaint a house NT by Bad costumes all around 10/24/2021, 9:18pm PDT
Brataccas is my favorite bad game and they really cribbed from Dune a little by Ice Cream Jonsey 10/26/2021, 2:30pm PDT
Dune is probably my favorite sci-fi novel of all time and I loved the movie! by Mischief Maker 10/25/2021, 9:05pm PDT
Re: Dune is probably my favorite sci-fi novel of all time and I loved the movie! by Rafiki 10/26/2021, 11:07pm PDT
All of your moral interpretations of the plot are accurate. NT by Mischief Maker 10/27/2021, 4:36am PDT
SPOILER elaboration (only for part 1) by Mischief Maker 10/27/2021, 5:04am PDT
Re: SPOILER elaboration (only for part 1) by E. L. Koba 10/28/2021, 4:33pm PDT
Re: Dune is probably my favorite sci-fi novel of all time and I loved the movie! by E. L. Koba 10/28/2021, 4:58pm PDT
[REDACTED] is killed by what is effectively a drone. by A Samsung SSD 10/26/2021, 1:13pm PDT
I saw it in the theater, in a recliner, with extremely good sound system, and a by beer in the cupholder. 10/27/2021, 12:56pm PDT
Infinity War didn't rate? NT by laudablepuss 10/27/2021, 2:33pm PDT
Marvel movies are ugly messes, every frame of Dune is gorgeous. by Mischief Maker 10/27/2021, 4:28pm PDT
Pretty goddamn generic by Frank Herbert 10/27/2021, 4:42pm PDT
You know Thanos isn't actually Josh Brolin in purpleface, right? NT by Mischief Maker 10/27/2021, 4:59pm PDT
incorrect by laudablepuss 10/27/2021, 5:20pm PDT
Lookit dese guys NT by Couple a purps 10/27/2021, 5:27pm PDT
gur, I read this as "IS actually". I might have to stop reading on my phone :( NT by laudablepuss 10/28/2021, 12:30pm PDT
Re: You know Thanos isn't actually Josh Brolin in purpleface, right? by John Gulp 10/29/2021, 6:51am PDT
Re: You know Thanos isn't actually Josh Brolin in purpleface, right? by Vidinfox 11/09/2021, 12:37pm PST
This is correct. by pinback 10/27/2021, 5:26pm PDT
Re: This is correct. by Frank Herbert 10/27/2021, 5:34pm PDT
Arrival was pretty decent. A few ridiculous parts NT by but largely good 10/27/2021, 8:34pm PDT
Scenes in a desert are going to be stark and striking automatically. NT by laudablepuss 10/27/2021, 5:27pm PDT
Re: Scenes in a dessert are eye candy NT by caltropa after dark 10/28/2021, 4:56am PDT
Rewatched '84 and '21 recently. by Mischief Shai-hulud 11/09/2021, 11:53am PST
IMO a couple of character moments are better in the '84 version by Fullofkittens 11/09/2021, 12:26pm PST
Agreed on #2, huge disagree on #1. by Mischief Shai-hulud 11/09/2021, 12:30pm PST
Also I think the real Kwisatz Haderach in '84 is Duke Leto's unkillable pug. by Mischief Shai-hulud 11/09/2021, 1:58pm PST
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