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| I've kinda had it with the BS Wrath of Khan complaints by laudablepuss 01/14/2023, 10:24pm PST | ||||
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| Here's a representative example
Let's just say, a lot of these are really reaching. Some of these are pretty good, but most don't amount to much IMO. Yes the prop for entering the prefix code was ridiculous. It couldn't possibly be a real IO device of any kind for any purpose. The issues with this password are vastly overshadowed by the idea of the prefix code back in the early 80s. Bones leaving his tricorder in his other pants is a good complaint. And of course the dying cadet being brought to the bridge has my vote for the actual dumbest thing to happen in the movie. I've been watching this movie over and over since I first video taped it off the TV in the 80s. Back then, I too wondered why didn't Chekov ask to be beamed out from the Botany Bay? Then I remembered that they were beamed down in specific location because it was the only small window on the giant storm, and had then wandered away a good ways. But sure he could have at least tried. This is way less of an issue I think than this person seems to think. They didn't beam out because of the storm. Another one: Why did Captain Terrell have such a hard time killing Kirk? He just killed a guy! But that was in response to an attack; what Khan is now asking for was cold blooded murder. That's the difference. Ok so the code in the conversation between Kirk and Spock was a little thin. Again, this is really reaching in my opinion. They could have *possibly* set this up in a previous scene, maybe? That's the best I can think of for making this work better, but really it works fine already given that the audience has to come along for the ride. The sensors showing Reliant on the other side of the moon is interesting . . . but they did say beforehand that their sensors were offline. Doesn't explain why Reliant can't see em though. Setting aside this possible bit of nonsense here, what the movie does clearly gloss over is whatever Spock has had to do to avoid detection by Reliant while Kirk was away. He obviously decided he couldn't hang around Regula I, but beyond that it's hard to put myself in his shoes. He HAD to have gotten some sensor functionality going before moving -- flying blind would be suicide I think. Past that I dunno what happened here. Last, before the worst complaint, is her thing about Genesis at the end. Yes, Genesis made the star. Yes the magic device worked in a weird way. This seemed comprehensible on first viewing. The uh, angular momentum comment was a good one though. But again, really reaching for things to complain about here. The biggest, stupidest complaints though all tie to Kirk's supposed incompetence or actual breaking of Star Fleet regulations. I contend that none of that happened. Here she suggests that he should have been taking Genesis more seriously. We don't know what Star Fleet Command told him, but we can suppose a couple things: first nobody had heard from Reliant and second, Kirk didn't know how far along the project was and SFC hadn't bothered to mention it in their orders (if they had up-to-date information). In any event, he wasn't meandering and having friendly chats and wasting time, that's a pretty dumb interpretation. WARP 5 WHY HUGAALGLAGLGL Not mentioned directly in this video but alluded to: why didn't Kirk know what the audience knew about Reliant being bad? WHYYYYYY. The wiki actually says that Kirk broke the rules because he's REQUIRED to raise shields "on the approach of any vessel when communications have not been established". Two things. First, there's no chance that could possibly be a real regulation (see below) and second, it's not at all clear, except to us, the audience who knows that Reliant is full of shit, that communications haven't been established. They're at least established enough to hear Reliant lying about their communications coil or whatever. Kirk is coming at this more blind than fans wish to believe, I think. There are lots of possibilities, and he hasn't seen Khan laughing it up on the opposing bridge and so hasn't been able to whittle then down that far yet. But as for that regulation, it's retarded. Raising shields is an aggressive act, or can be viewed that way, as has been explained by Picard and others numerous times. In Star Trek VI in fact he refuses to raise the shields in a way more tense situation than this (seemed to be). Friendly relations with paranoid aliens relies on discretion in this regard. I could rant about this all day, but that's the summary. There's no way that's a real rule. Hey wait a minute, no mention of a robot or something to do the dangerous futzing with radioactive crap that Spock did? Let's talk about that! Granted that robots get killed by radiation too, but we can easily imagine robots with a lot more resistance than Vulcan eyeballs and skull bones. Oh well. |
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I've kinda had it with the BS Wrath of Khan complaints by 01/14/2023, 10:24pm PST  Re: I've kinda had it with the BS Wrath of Khan complaints by 01/14/2023, 11:04pm PST Re: I've kinda had it with the BS Wrath of Khan complaints by 01/15/2023, 1:10am PST I think you managed to misunderstand every single thing about the prefix code NT by 01/15/2023, 1:30am PST I was the only one who entertained your lonely thread, you thankless nerd! by 01/15/2023, 10:54am PST Please don't rely on Memory Alpha for anything by 01/15/2023, 2:55pm PST Holy shit that was skin-crawlingly gay. by 01/15/2023, 10:40pm PST They didn't override shit. NT by 01/15/2023, 6:30am PST This kind of clickbait nit-picking has a long and storied history. by 01/15/2023, 8:17am PST Re: This kind of clickbait nit-picking has a long and storied history. by 01/15/2023, 2:58pm PST This really bothers me by 07/21/2023, 3:22pm PDT Re: This really bothers me by 07/21/2023, 8:52pm PDT |
